forget the arms'code' whats in the act?
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forget the arms'code' whats in the act?
Right, to clear it up GOOGLE Hunting permits Firearms.
There you see 2 sites, one DOC and one Government site that explains it clearer than some other sites, ir one ROKTOY quoted.
I will paste the 2 below. This one on the Hunting Consevation Land/ NZ Government site
1 Hunting on conservation land
You’ll need to get permits for hunting on conservation or other government managed land.
Hunting basics
To hunt on public conservation land you need a hunting permit. To hunt on any other land you need permission from the landowner.
Learn where, what and how you can safely hunt on conservation land. Find out about:
protected species
heli-hunting
taking dogs hunting
where pesticides are laid.
Hunting
Find out:
when to hunt
where to stay
what gear to pack
how to keep safe.
Rules for hunting on public conservation land
What kind of permits you’ll need
Each person in a hunting party needs a separate permit, whether you’re hunting with a firearm, bow or knife. Hunting after dark and spotlighting is illegal on conservation land.
Permits and licences
""""If you’re hunting with a gun, you need a valid New Zealand firearms licence. If you do not have one, you can only hunt with a gun if you’re with someone who does have a licence. You have to be sharing the gun, and they need to stay within arm’s reach of you while you’re using it.""""
Firearms licence
Along with your gamebird licence, you also need a gamebird hunting permit""
So clearly shows you have to share the "Gun"" , having 2 between the parties is a No No.
The Second one is from DOC.....Firearms licence - Hunting permits - Department of Conservation
When hunting under the immediate supervision provision:
only one firearm is permitted between the supervisor and the hunter
each person requires a hunting permit.
So there are the links, pretty clear. If you not looking that hard and just clink on a doc permit site it might not go into full detail but
these make it very clear.
Offically only one rifle between 2 parties if one is unlicenced.. hope that proves what im saying
Cheers
3 pages for somethiing covered in the MSC test.........
I have taken two rifles hunting with one license, but I was hunting by myself.
I have also supervised unlicensed friends that wanted to see what hunting was about, in that scenario I just took one rifle, any more and it gets complicated and would ruin the fun.
The thing to remember before you worry about court/prosecutions interpretations of law etc is that we are at some risk of being involved with death or serious injury any time we use a firearm. The use of two rifles in the scenario doesn’t justify the hassle and risk.
To the OP, your footnote about tomatoes and fruit salad applies to this discussion.
You may be correct on the wording but i wouldn't personally risk my fal on it think they would pull the old not the intention of the lawQuote:
Originally Posted by jpurdon
Does your mate want to take a gamble on losing his licence? Why aggravate the law? Go and ask your local AO and get them to put the answer to your question in writing. Personally i would hope your mate would have the idea that you can really only supervise one person at a time in the field with all the due safety expected from a responsible FAL holder.
Well here's what I was told by my AO .
I asked the same question . There's 4 of us in my family and we often hunt together . We each have our own rifle . At the time I was the only licensed one (I asked the question at the interview for the wife and boys license application).
I was told it was fine for us to each carry our own rifle , but only 1 can be used at a time and I had to be within arms reach , ie under control . This included my 14 yr old daughter .
So we always went out each with our own personal rifle but only one was ever fired , and whoever saw the animal got the shot , using either their own gun or whichever rifle was appropriate ( we have a selection of calibers between us, all centrefire).
Now we have three licences in the family and my daughter still carries and uses her own rifle but one of us must supervise her when she shoots as she is still to young for a license .
