Thread: 300 Rounds go missing

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It is worrying isn't.

who the hell packages in 32 round containers?

Originally Posted by gonetropo

who the hell packages in 32 round containers?

Struck me as odd too.

Mix of 9mm 50 boxes and 5.56 20 boxes

Originally Posted by gonetropo

who the hell packages in 32 round containers?

my thoughts exactly -Maybe it it is a super dooper special police round or something .assuming its .223 in 20rd packets it then equates to 16packets missing. why FGS dont police use military to transport ammo around the country, for military must carry massive loads all through nz. better still get regional stockpile of police ammo held in military secure facilities and this can be drawn down as needed .Again this case suggests failure to adhere to protocol or even simple cutting corners /slackness as root cause.

Originally Posted by kotuku

my thoughts exactly -Maybe it it is a super dooper special police round or something .assuming its .223 in 20rd packets it then equates to 16packets missing. why FGS dont police use military to transport ammo around the country, for military must carry massive loads all through nz. better still get regional stockpile of police ammo held in military secure facilities and this can be drawn down as needed .Again this case suggests failure to adhere to protocol or even simple cutting corners /slackness as root cause.

Most of the old school army hall-style military facilities aren't permanently manned now, so no real advantage or way that this could happen.

Originally Posted by No.3

Most of the old school army hall-style military facilities aren't permanently manned now, so no real advantage or way that this could happen.

the majority of larg er cities will have a permanent army base close by and the smaller centres often have an active TF army base with secure storage with reach for a resupp of ammo if required.Due to the military fetish for paperwork(quadruplicate at times) you can also seem who signed for it on uplift plus which police person authorised the original ammo order etc etc.beats the hell out of getting some courier to drive a van load to timbuctoowithout anyone knowing if the could have wayward tendencies or are being srtoodover by assorted miscreants /lowlife or GPs tracked by hijackers.

Originally Posted by kotuku

the majority of larg er cities will have a permanent army base close by and the smaller centres often have an active TF army base with secure storage with reach for a resupp of ammo if required.Due to the military fetish for paperwork(quadruplicate at times) you can also seem who signed for it on uplift plus which police person authorised the original ammo order etc etc.beats the hell out of getting some courier to drive a van load to timbuctoowithout anyone knowing if the could have wayward tendencies or are being srtoodover by assorted miscreants /lowlife or GPs tracked by hijackers.

Yeah, well that didn't work, obviously.

reloading opportunity for someone ?

You think that this reporting is accurate?

Police will be fine. You and me, however, are going to have an even harder time trying to courier ammunition as a result of this.

I thought recent law changes stipulate transport of ammunition require locked storage ?

Originally Posted by chainsaw

I thought recent law changes stipulate transport of ammunition require locked storage ?

Police and some other Government Departments are exempt from the provisions of the Arms Act (and others). Do as I say, not as I do!

Not the first time firearms/ammunition have gone missing due to light fingered couriers.

Problem here is that the real world doesn't nicely line up with Police very black/white ideas of "WHAT MUST HAPPEN". You can't stop shipping firearms and ammo, even for Police. Any time you entrust something to the care of someone else, there's a risk factor that you accept as built-in with that transaction. You can't stop or prevent every risk, without stopping the world from spinning and that's purely impossible.

It would be great to live in a perfect world where no one farks it up at all, but it isn't going to happen (something that the transport agency might want to think about as well!).

I can see the results of this being that firearms related items go on a courier company blacklist - just too much hassle. I know some of the outfits are trying not to handle certain other 'desirable' items and have asked companies not to send them through their networks just because the courier managers aren't confident they can control the service. What that does is almost the reverse of what we want, it concentrates those items in a smaller group of transport outfits - and I know where I am on rural delivery we are seriously struggling with light fingered dickheads following the postie's van down the road and raiding after delivery. The Police seem powerless to stop that sort of crime as well.