Thread: Act submission points

Mine's all done now. Thanks for those bullet points folks...I used a few of them but put into my own words.

Originally Posted by Nick303

As well as arguing for P endorsement for sports use I believe there should be an option to apply for it on medical grounds but subject to some restrictions. People with recoil sensitivity, lack of dexterity, lack of upper body functionality due to injury/loss of limb should be allowed to hunt with Prohibited firearms. The license wouldn’t include P magazine endorsement so restricted to 10 rounds. They would need a medical certificate similar to the ones in Australia that allow medical endorsement for using semi auto shotguns for clay shooting.

Thoughts on something like this?

Better to word that as the current law disadvantages the disabled.

Whether you’re crippled or not isn’t a desirable licensing threshold.

Originally Posted by chainsaw

It ( the register) is stated as “ not in scope”, but I am including comments on it in my submission as it very directly relates to firearms safety & risks and is ridiculously expensive to set up and run (for very little real benefit).

Now becoming less recent, but this was my favourite real world example of a register being misused:

22 March 2022 - Western Australia Police release anonymised maps (example 1, example 2) of firearm owner addresses to the media to support their call for more restrictive firearm legislation. (Link)

25 March 2022 - WA Firearm owners demand apology for anonymised maps being too easy to figure out. WA Police accuse them of fearmongering. (Link)

27 May 2022 - Violent home invasion in Perth, man doused in methylated spirits and forced to give up combination to firearm safe, is lit on fire anyway. (Link)

15 July 2022 - Software engineers demonstrate the maps can be used to locate addresses of firearm owners. WA Police accuse them of fearmongering. (https://www.watoday.com.au/national/fresh-concerns-over-gun-safety-after-duo-pinpoint-registered-perth-firearm-houses-20220714-p5b1rr.html]Link)

5 February 2024 - Senior WA Police staff inadvertently admits maps released in 2022 posed a serious safety concern particularly for isolated addresses, and may have increased home invasions, theft, and firearm related crime. (Link)

Cheers for the points, the combo of this and the Colfo document made the process much easier - now I've retained my right to grumble

Did a full court press this afternoon. Submission completed.

Finished and sent mine in.

Done... finally.

thanks @gimp for sharing your thoughts.

Submission completed.

I have completed my submission. For those still working on theirs, I'd include something on the "Fit and proper status" regarding licence revocation. This needs to be clearly defined within the Act so law enforcement and Firearm owners understand the requirements. Licence Revocation needs to go through a formal process. If challenged and the courts find removal unjustified, Police should cover all court costs and compensation for any distress. I believe the court process, costs around $20000 for trying to overturn the decision, so licence revocation needs to be carefully considered and not based on a decision made by a member of the Police. This would ensure in fairness and reduce potential for abuse of power. Fit and proper status should only be revoked by the courts and no other body.

Did these on the weekend for wifey & myself. Lots of great ideas on here amongst the team.
Appreciate the time and effort put into this Gimp

Took me a couple of nights to get through it but done finally.
Not holding my breath for any substantial changes but not submitting only helps the anti gun fruit loops.

Originally Posted by whanahuia

Also, one thing OI forgot to mention is that the way one of the preambles too a question is written. It appears to say that you need a dealers licence too lend firearms.

Yes this is correct. If you provide shotguns for a tourist type of have a go clay shoot you must have a dealers licence. I have a dealers licence because i am a theatrical armourer and sometime provide a MG or the like for a reenactment event. I am also forced to obtain the same endorsements on my dealers licence that i hold on my personal licence.

My submission sent.

Done

Thanks @gimp@ for the bare bones format, it helped although I couldn't resist referring to the current Act as a gallimaufry

also thanks @XR500@ for the word doc/cut n paste idea - worked well

Right I now have a license to grumble

I added that the rule about Doctors grassing up their patients who are FAL owners has caused several men of my acquaintance to stop seeing Doctors altogether which is definitely an unintended consequence

currently it is difficult to send firearms via courier/postal service from one private individual to another. an informal system of shipping dealer-to-dealer has arisen to get around this, but it is still inconvenient, dealers charge arbitrary amounts, and even though the firearm is being dropped off and picked up in person by a license holder, the dealers require S43A forms to facilitate the transaction


Does anyone have a neat way of suggesting a policy solution to this?