Thread: Another Aramoana???

I see O'Connor and Gillespie (Waikato University fuckwit) http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/(agendae?) have been flapping their chops again, trying to demonise firearms and firearms owners. O'Connor wants to be a politician, God help us!! and Gillespie wants to think his opinion matters. Both are media whores who will give an opinion at the drop of a shutter button. But opinions are like arseholes - everyone has one, and my opinion of this pair is not fit for publication. Apropos of this, it seems the cops in the USA are killing a lot of people, mostly those of a darker complexion. And politicians are screaming "Gun Control!" Jeeeez I despair of this world, particularly our little part of it. Things like O'Connor and Gillespie should have compulsory muzzles. Fear-mongering shitheads that they are. And of course the media lap it up.

And they still don't realise they are talking about illegal firearms which are owned by criminals. So no matter what firearm regulations they change nothing will change in real life!

Originally Posted by 223nut

And they still don't realise they are talking about illegal firearms which are owned by criminals. So no matter what firearm regulations they change nothing will change in real life!

Seems like your idiots are cut from the same cloth as our idiots.

Here in the US they want to ban guns and they still can't figure out why the places with stringent gun control have the highest crime rates. Bad guys don't follow the law!

Originally Posted by Miami_JBT

Seems like your idiots are cut from the same cloth as our idiots.

Here in the US they want to ban guns and they still can't figure out why the places with stringent gun control have the highest crime rates. Bad guys don't follow the law!

You have to stop talking logic, your screwing with my brain!

Originally Posted by Maca49

You have to stop talking logic, your screwing with my brain!

I can't help it logic runs my career. Wait it's logical and my career that I wouldn't do what I do for a living because I don't make a lot of money. LOL

Easily the worst scare-mongering I've seen, absolutely shameful.

Originally Posted by tommygun

Easily the worst scare-mongering I've seen, absolutely shameful.

Why?

New Zealand has a long history of multiple shootings, often by licenced firearm owners.

Originally Posted by systolic

Why?

New Zealand has a long history of multiple shootings, often by licenced firearm owners.

Because none of what he suggests will actually stop a mass shooting and he is clearly using the idea of a mass killing to sell his crusade.

Originally Posted by Beavis

Because none of what he suggests will actually stop a mass shooting and he is clearly using the idea of a mass killing to sell his crusade.

His crusade to make the people he represents (the members of his union) safer? Isn't that what union presidents do? Lobby for better conditions for their members?

Originally Posted by systolic

His crusade to make the people he represents (the members of his union) safer? Isn't that what union presidents do? Lobby for better conditions for their members?

But again none of what he is asking for will help make his members safer. How many police officers have been attacked with a .50 calibre rifle? How will registering guns stop criminals from stealing guns and pointing them at police?

Originally Posted by systolic

His crusade to make the people he represents (the members of his union) safer? Isn't that what union presidents do? Lobby for better conditions for their members?

His crusade is to establish a footing for his political ambitions. I don't know why police members put up with his constant stream of bullshit and self-promotion.

Originally Posted by systolic

Why?

New Zealand has a long history of multiple shootings, often by licenced firearm owners.

Really? Like how many? Just counting civilians?

Originally Posted by Maca49

Really? Like how many? Just counting civilians?

And compare that number to that of shooting involving illegal firearms... Ignoring the hunting not identifying your targets as they are a whole nother topic

They may as well ban air guns, because at least it killed one policeman. So statisticly a air gun is more dangerous than a 50 cal, or a police officer is more likely to get kill by an air gun than a 50 cal.

Originally Posted by Maca49

Really? Like how many? Just counting civilians?

Four cops shot in Kawerau a few months ago.

How about the guy that killed the two women in the Ashburton Work and Income office?

Ashburton Work and Income shooter Russell John Tully sentenced to life with 27 years non-parole | Stuff.co.nz

Or that guy Mowatt who fired 29 shots to kill his ex girlfriend and her new boyfriend in Papakura a couple of years ago? Licenced firearms owner.

The Bedroom Murders: 29 shots, 3 people dead. Why? - National - NZ Herald News

Four shot and one killed in Napier in 2009.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Napier_shootings

Six killed with a shotgun in Raurimu in 1997.

crime.co.nz

Five shot dead in the Bain family murders in 1994.

Six more killed by that bloke Schlaepfer near Pukekohe in 1992. Farmer with his shotgun and a knife.

Stanley Graham in 1941 on the west coast. Shot and killed seven others.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanle...of_the_rampage

That's just off the top of my head. There were more people maimed by guns in the same incidents.