Thread: The anti gun lobby

Who are the people we are supposedly fighting? I've never seen any evidence of a group that wants to disarm people and are actively pursuing it. I haven't seen any people brandishing signs and approaching parliament.

Sure the Police and the pistol grip saga but at the end of the day they just want people to go through a bit more vetting and have better security to own a MSSA, which I understand. They aren't trying to disarm the population.

Just because there is the odd article written in a negative way doesn't mean anything.

Sure I know the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he doesn't exist, but I don't think that's the case here.

So the devil does exist?

Originally Posted by Sidney

So the devil does exist?

Rule number one guys. Let's not get into this debate.

Originally Posted by Savage1

Who are the people we are supposedly fighting? I've never seen any evidence of a group that wants to disarm people and are actively pursuing it. I haven't seen any people brandishing signs and approaching parliament.

Sure the Police and the pistol grip saga but at the end of the day they just want people to go through a bit more vetting and have better security to own a MSSA, which I understand. They aren't trying to disarm the population.

Just because there is the odd article written in a negative way doesn't mean anything.

Sure I know the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he doesn't exist, but I don't think that's the case here.

You really believe that? I have heard it straight from the mouth of a very senior police man, and also parroted by local police - they have a real problem with basically all semi automatics, and at the end of the day, them and their bosses really don't want modern semi automatic firearms in the country. Guess that makes them an opponent.

Originally Posted by Beavis

You really believe that? I have heard it straight from the mouth of a very senior police man, and also parroted by local police - they have a real problem with basically all semi automatics, and at the end of the day, them and their bosses really don't want modern semi automatic firearms in the country. Guess that makes them an opponent.

Yes I really do believe it, I have a lot more exposure to Police and their policies than you do and I've never once seen any thing that you could even remotely interpret as being a step to disarming people.

Originally Posted by Savage1

Yes I really do believe it, I have a lot more exposure to Police and their policies than you do and I've never once seen any thing that you could even remotely interpret as being a step to disarming people.

Originally Posted by Savage1

Does any of it say that they should ban all firearms and disarm citizens? Have the Police made any moves to ban any type of firearm?

It says Police has given careful consideration to the Thorpe Report, nowhere does it say they will be enacting all the recommendations from it.

Why would have they mucked around with pistol grips if they were just going to ban them outright anyway, it doesn't make any sense.

The actions that Police have taken speak a lot louder than those quotes you have put up from four years ago, and I haven't seen any attempts to ban any firearms.

Its not a legitimate argument to say that because I don't know about it, it can't exist....

Originally Posted by Beavis

You really believe that? I have heard it straight from the mouth of a very senior police man, and also parroted by local police - they have a real problem with basically all semi automatics, and at the end of the day, them and their bosses really don't want modern semi automatic firearms in the country. Guess that makes them an opponent.

No offence dude, but exactly 'who' is this to bolster your argument ? Surely they can't be that big a secret, if they're talking to the public making statements like this ?

Plus local Police are just that - local. Your experiences differ from those in other parts of the country, if we use the logic that local Police don't want semi's around, then my local Police and personal Police I know say 100% the complete opposite.

Ergo, all of this become meaningless comments without verifiable facts, which have the danger of treated as fact - by those who wish for more firearms restrictions, and by those who want less.