Thread: AOS shooting -TVOne sunday program

Originally Posted by jim160

Yes. Well said.
And also the stuff in the show was from one side who is seeking money. There was little other information contained in the show which h related to the other stuff that happened.
We can't make judgements without all the info.
We weren't there.

One of the best comments in this thread!

Originally Posted by gundoc

Whilst I support the Police generally, there is no doubt (based on several court cases and other instances I have been involved with) that there is a 'we make the rules as we are the Police' attitude that starts at PNHQ and trickles down through the ranks. It is only when a few concerned (or affected) citizens take them to Court that the law triumphs over Police 'policy' and other activities. Over the years I have had quite a bit of contact with Police firearms training and have a very low opinion of the general standard of Police use of firearms. This is not really the fault of the individual Police trainers (some of whom are quite skilled) but a combination of PNHQ policy and worse, the over-confident attitude of many (usually quite inept) officers when undergoing training The Police have no more rights than you or me when it comes to firing at people - yes, they are exempt from various provisions of the Arms Act, but not from the various 'misuse' provisions, nor from the Crimes Act. I have been involved in cases where people have been charged and convicted of 'misuse' offences which were much safer to all concerned than the Police shooting on the Auckland motorway. The Police actions in tampering with evidence are certainly worthy of prison time, and not to bring charges against the officers involved in this particular shooting is both a gross misuse of Police powers and a travesty of justice. Sadly, this is far from the first time that Police have actively covered up their misdeeds, and I am afraid that it will take a large and stiff-bristled broom to sweep the rot out of the department.

I don't know you. I don't know your history, experience etc. But I do know the police have the right to use deadly force to arrest or prevent escape of an offender (Sections 39 and 40 of the Crimes Act) while those called to assist police do not!

Therefore your comment that police have no more rights under the Crimes Act is incorrect.