Thread: B Cat Safe.... info required please.

@10-Ring

Thanks for this information from the Arms Regulation 1992.

I was already aware of the clauses that allow a Police Officer to request to see Security for Endorsed Firearms whenever they requested by a Member of the Police, at a reasonable time of day.

Respectfully, nowhere does this say that "B-Cat is yearly, E-Cat 3 is yearly" as originally quoted by yourself.

Incidentally MY AO and our area Licencing Inspector are Not "Members Of The Police".

They are "Civilian Employees" and therefore they have no powers with regard to these regulations..

Cheers
Pete

Originally Posted by 10-Ring

It is an annual check for B-Cat security and every three years for E-Cat in my district. I assumed it would be the same in your district.

Arms officers and firearms vettors (often retired police officers) may not be sworn officers however they are still members of the police.

10-Ring

I disagree,

Civilian Employees are not "Members of the Police",

Retired Police Officers are not "Members of the Police".

Sworn Police Officers are "Members of the Police".


Cheers
Pete

Originally Posted by P38

10-Ring

I disagree, Civilian Employees are not "Members of the Police", Sworn Police Officers are "Members of the Police".


Cheers
Pete

Mouse is playing up.

Irrespective if you agree or not it is a fact. I'll find the relevant information for you when I get time.

Originally Posted by P38

10-Ring

I disagree,

Civilian Employees are not "Members of the Police",

Retired Police Officers are not "Members of the Police".

Sworn Police Officers are "Members of the Police".


Cheers
Pete

Have a look at this Pete:

Arms Act 1983 (1983 No 44)

Definition of member of the Police in section 2: repeal and substitute:
member of the Police means a Police employee within the meaning of section 4 of the Policing Act


Policing Act 2008

4 Interpretation

Subpart 3—Police employees

Appointment of Police employees

18 Commissioner may appoint Police employees

(1)
The Commissioner may from time to time appoint the people that the Commissioner thinks necessary for the efficient exercise and performance of the powers, functions, and duties of the Police.

(2)
The power conferred by subsection (1) includes power to appoint people on an acting, temporary, or casual basis or for any period that the Commissioner and the employee agree.

(3)
The Commissioner may assign to a Police employee any level of position that the Commissioner considers appropriate.

(4)
Unless expressly provided to the contrary in this Act, the Commissioner has all of the rights, duties, and powers of an employer in respect of Police employees

Originally Posted by 10-Ring

Have a look at this Pete:

Arms Act 1983 (1983 No 44)

Definition of member of the Police in section 2: repeal and substitute:
member of the Police means a Police employee within the meaning of section 4 of the Policing Act


Policing Act 2008

4 Interpretation

Subpart 3—Police employees

Appointment of Police employees

18 Commissioner may appoint Police employees

(1)
The Commissioner may from time to time appoint the people that the Commissioner thinks necessary for the efficient exercise and performance of the powers, functions, and duties of the Police.

(2)
The power conferred by subsection (1) includes power to appoint people on an acting, temporary, or casual basis or for any period that the Commissioner and the employee agree.

(3)
The Commissioner may assign to a Police employee any level of position that the Commissioner considers appropriate.

(4)
Unless expressly provided to the contrary in this Act, the Commissioner has all of the rights, duties, and powers of an employer in respect of Police employees

@10-Ring

Good work

So a Civilian Employee Can be a Member of the Police under the Arms Act if specifically appoint by the Commissioner.

I guess that's where this Authorised Officer originates from.

Cheers
Pete