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https://www.deerstalkers.org.nz/reso...R66U8iH9mGJRcL
https://portal.deerstalkers.org.nz/d...467/default/?&
consultation feedback due by 21st june
Interesting that the proposal for pistol ranges is effectively unchanged from the current regime with only a couple of tweaks (e.g. reduced annual reporting, and club members can make up their 12 range visits at any clubs sanctioned event).
Non-pistol ranges would have to comply with range standing orders that had been approved by either a "governing body" (e.g. a club or an association) or the "regulator" (i.e. Firearms Safety Authority). But other than that, there would be no "certification" of non-pistol ranges.
Greetings,
I see that the Range Safety document is mentioned in the appendix so those operating sub standard ranges would be at some legal risk. Although there is no requirement for registration all club ranges still need to be enrolled so it is not business as it was.
Regards Grandpamac.
Our club received this, which was presented to committee yesterday. It appears a "streamlined version" of what they wanted initially. Our thoughts are maybe wait and see what transpires in the review before doing anything
Funny they haven't cleared up the obvious and enduring confusion in the legislation's definition of "what is a range"...
Primary land use or primarily used by members of the public for shooting... what constitutes "designated area"... does a facility have to be permanent...
Probably don't know the answer to that to be fair - they'd want it to err on the side of "it's a range" but a farm paddock next to a cliff used 6x a year is in no way primary use, and it's not accessible by members of the public, and, and...
Greetings,
I expect there will be more detain in the Regulations. The sections in the range rules on casual sighting in may be an indication. Any form of competition may be a trigger as would use by a club.
Interesting they ask you to submit the info via email. The police currently run self-signed certificates on their email gateways - which in IT security terms is a big no no and considered insecure.
This is the local rags take on it here
Interesting the arguments about noise, pollution and other environmental impacts. It's not related at all to the "firearms safety" aspects of the discussion around arms legislation, reporting requirements and administration burden for clubs and ranges.
One wonders if the Phillipa Yasbeks of this world actually understand how the legislation works or if they are being intentionally murky to make firearms user groups appear worse than they actually are. Your average motorcross track would be worse for peak and average noise levels when compared to a range, would occupy a greater land footprint and see more pollution generated from fuel and oils burnt. Greater cost for injuries sustained too...
submissions due by tomorrow
Greetings,
Just read through the NZDA submission which was mostly supportive of the proposal for ranges. I suggest we should all read them. The NZDA submission is available on their web site.
GPM.
Police association and others say the firearm law reforms are undemocratic: https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/3503...ed-critics-say
F*** me the level of hypocrisy there is off the charts considering what labour did, remember when those wankers changed the order of readings in parliament to deliberately catch David Seymour out. Then they all thought it was funny!Quote:
“Focussed consultation” had been sent out to select groups on May 28, with submissions due by June 21, a timeframe Labour described as “exceptionally short” for such an important issue.
Hypocracy aplenty from the Police Association. Don't know if they have been excluded from the consulration process but doubt whatever "contribution" they sought to make would be of any benefit. I remember how they supported the rushed introduction of the new laws that were supposed to protect public safety but did nothing to thwart criminal misuse of firearms because the new laws completely missed hitting the real cause of the problems.
Sadly, Police can't be trusted to constructively contribute to firearms legislation so not much point in asking that they do. Far too much of their own biases to make fair and balanced contributions possible.
I'll never forget that the Police issued Tarrant with his firearms license and brought all this sh*t down on we lawful licensed firearms owners.
Greetings All,
Another wet day. I found a programme for the changes to the arms laws on the NZDA web site today based on a release by Nicole. I found it interesting. She divided the programme into 4 phases. Phase 1 was about Firearms Prohibition Orders and is now before the Justice Committee. Phase 2 was the Regulation of Shooting Clubs and Ranges for which the initial consultation closed last Friday. Phase 3 was the the review of the Firearms Registry and the relocation of the Firearms Safety Authority from the Police to another Government Department. Work on the first of these has commenced. Phase 4 was the rewriting of the Arms Act with a view to passing the law before the end of the current term which I guess is late 2026.
There are a lot of moving parts in all this and many are dependant on others with the rewriting of the Arms Act and passing it into law being the critical event. We would be unwise to expect much in the way of change prior to the end of next year.
Regards Grandpamac.
latest e mail from Nicole Mckee re clubs / ranges :
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Hello everyone, I begin this email thanking you all for your ongoing support of what is going to be a really busy term of Government business for firearms owners.
I am pleased to share with you the first changes relating to the regulation of shooting clubs and ranges.
Throughout this process my focus has been on achieving public safety, by allowing clubs to remain open so licenced firearms owners have somewhere they can practice and learn to use firearms safely. However, I have also been conscious of the burden unnecessary regulation has placed on these organisations, many of which are run and funded by volunteers.
The first of these regulations, which have no clear public safety rationale, have now been changed.
Non-Pistol Shooting Clubs
From Friday, 28 June most of the unnecessary Annual Reporting requirements for non-pistol clubs will be gone – benefiting over 33% of clubs.
From that date, the annual report of a non-pistol shooting club to the Firearms Safety Authority (FSA) will only need to include details of any changes to club officers since the club either applied for a certificate of approval or since the club’s last annual report, whichever is later. A simple email to FSA confirming there are no changes is all that will be required. Of course, if you have a change in committee members, then you must notify the FSA of those changes. There will no longer be a requirement to provide the minutes of the last AGM, or details of changes to constitutions or rules.
Pistol Shooting Clubs
These new reporting requirements do not change the annual reporting requirements to the FSA for pistol shooting clubs, which are required to provide:
• The minutes of the club’s last annual general meeting
• The names of all club members
• The firearms licence numbers of all club members who hold a firearms licence
• A list of the shooting activities organised by the club that were held during the financial year and the location of those activities
• A list of the shooting activities organised by the club that are planned to be held in the following financial year and the location of those activities
• If firearms and/or ammunition are sold on behalf of the club, a financial report approved in accordance with the club’s rules.
However, if a pistol club has not made any changes to its constitution or rules in the past year, they need now only give a statement to that effect. Likewise, if a pistol club has not had any changes to the club’s officers, they need only give a statement to that effect.
Annual Reports due prior to 28 June
I am aware that there are a number of clubs who have an annual report due now and who have yet to lodge it with FSA. For those clubs, I advise that your annual report is still due, and it should include the requirements set out under the previous regulation 28GO. I have moved as fast as I can using an Order in Council, but this regulation is NOT retrospective. It takes affect from 28 June 2024 and will capture those clubs whose year-end is 30 June 2024 onwards, but not the clubs whose year ended BEFORE 28 June 2024.
Incorporated Societies Act
All Clubs should note that if they are Incorporated then they will still need to meet the requirements under the Incorporated Societies Act and file those reports to the Companies Office.
I will be making announcements about more substantial changes as soon as I can and will share these with you in due course.
As I re-read this email over and over again it feels complicated, however we are starting work on unravelling the regs for you so please bear with us as we move through this reform process.
Meanwhile, thanks again for your support and I encourage you to let others know this great news, maybe even encourage them to sign up to receive these newsletters themselves at www.act.org.nz/firearms
Hon Nicole McKee
ACT Spokesperson for Firearms
Associate Minister of Justice
Sounds good to me but then I'm no expert