Colfo Announce Firearms Registry Review

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Originally Posted by Ben Waimata

Not very sporting but I've been thinking about how to set up something like that too.... some kind of deer trap or pit to corral them until I'm ready, rather than knocking them over on their terms. They're pests here.

Speaking of pits, the very first time I saw deer damage on this farm was about 15 years ago, I had dug a pit and lined it with plastic to use it to brew fermented biofertilizer. I'd just got the pit dug and lined with plastic, came back in the morning and the lining had deer print holes all through it. Flaming animal had either jumped or fallen into the pit and made a series of nice holes through the lining on the way out. That was the end of that idea.

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The simplest I saw was dependent on contour but basically the cocky had run his deer fence into the side of an almost vertical face and started again on the other side the same way
It might mean scratching into the side of a slope with a digger first

Deer could come down the slope and into the fenced area but not out

Following with interest....

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Originally Posted by Fee Knicks

Wandering off the original intent of the thread there chaps. Bit of a stretch from crims with illegally obtained guns to trapping deer.....

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That's just how thing's roll here. Trapping deer is much more interesting than whining about shit we can't change.

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Originally Posted by Steve123

That's just how thing's roll here. Trapping deer is much more interesting than whining about shit we can't change.

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Change can’t happen without Whining, Bitching and Moaning:)

Change absolutely can happen One just has to stop listening to those who keep pretending that it can't.

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Originally Posted by STC

Change absolutely can happen One just has to stop listening to those who keep pretending that it can't.

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How many forum posts does it take to change that lightbulb???

Following with interest

I was hoping we would've heard an update by now.
In one of Nicole's recent posts she said there was a timeline of the arms act reform process buy I can't seem to find one anywhere.

Write to her and ask her. Shes very approachable and will actually answer

here - an email from yesterday

Dear xxxxxx,

I thought I’d get in touch to give you an update on yesterday’s developments in the firearms reform space. I’m working hard to unravel the harm done to our firearms laws by Labour, and am proud to be your voice in Government. As you can imagine, this work is not without its opponents.

You may have seen the open letter from Police Association President Chris Cahill, expressing concerns about a lack of consultation directly with him, as we move through these first stages of the firearms legislative reforms. I found this ironic, considering that in 2019, he supported the rushed three-day select committee process that shut out so many of the voices of affected New Zealanders.

I came to Parliament with a commitment to bring common sense to our firearms laws through genuine consultation, and that’s exactly what I’m doing. Regarding the changes to Part 6 of the Arms Act and the review of the firearms registry, I’ve actively sought the views of those most likely to be impacted. This includes New Zealand Police as one of the selected targeted consultation groups. They have given me their extensive feedback at all stages of consultation.

Licensed Firearms Owners have told me they were largely ignored during previous ‘consultations’ including through all shortened select committee processes. We’re determined to ensure that everyone has a fair opportunity to be heard. This includes the Police Union who will have the same platform as everyone else. The consultations we’ve conducted so far have involved groups established by the previous Government and the New Zealand Police, among others.

We have previously outlined our work programme which will take place in four phases during this term of Government. The upcoming select committee stages for legislative changes will provide a chance for all New Zealanders to voice their opinions. Mr. Cahill’s claims of ‘restricted consultation’ and the ‘deliberate exclusion’ of the Police Association reflect a paranoia ill-befitting of the organisation he represents.

Mr. Cahill also expressed concerns about being left out of the consultation for what the review of the firearms registry will look like. The purpose of the review is to evaluate evidence thoroughly - something that should have been done by the previous Government.

I understand Mr. Cahill’s feelings of being sidelined, but he can rest assured that he, along with you and all New Zealanders, will have the opportunity to submit their views as the four phases of firearm law reform move through their legislative process.

Thank you for your continued support. Please know that I’m working every day to bring sense to the mess of firearms laws left by Labour.

Yours sincerely,




Hon Nicole McKee

Love it

So with the register review said to occur between June and December, in theory we should be hearing more about this soon.

I thought I recalled reading it was going to take 6 months, so of it started June 1st the December 1st is when we should hear more.

I wonder what the chances of hearing something next month are?

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Originally Posted by 308

This is great news and just what I have hoped for

Sure I don't know what the decision will be but I am as happy as a clam that someone is actually taking a look at it

A really positive sign

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^^^ 100% agree.👍

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Originally Posted by Beetroot

So with the register review said to occur between June and December, in theory we should be hearing more about this soon.

I thought I recalled reading it was going to take 6 months, so of it started June 1st the December 1st is when we should hear more.

I wonder what the chances of hearing something next month are?

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Mark Mitchell stated on TV a couple of months ago that the register will not be abolished under the current leadership.

I doubt anyone thinks the register will be abolished.

What we all wish for is that the operation of it be removed from Police hands and given over to some other organisation that isnt heavily biased against us. And that it be made much more user friendly in the process.

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Originally Posted by Fee Knicks

I doubt anyone thinks the register will be abolished.

What we all wish for is that the operation of it be removed from Police hands and given over to some other organisation that isnt heavily biased against us. And that it be made much more user friendly in the process.

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got some info yesterday (reliable but s/h so wont repeat it here as it will get poopooed) but good news on the horizon.... the speed govt works at maybe not before xmas tho ,watch this space

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Originally Posted by scotty

got some info yesterday (reliable but s/h so wont repeat it here as it will get poopooed) but good news on the horizon.... the speed govt works at maybe not before xmas tho ,watch this space

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Too late for me - had to renew my licence ergo had to register my guns.

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Originally Posted by Fee Knicks

I doubt anyone thinks the register will be abolished.

What we all wish for is that the operation of it be removed from Police hands and given over to some other organisation that isnt heavily biased against us. And that it be made much more user friendly in the process.

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We might go back to partial registration, but I agree that it's unlikely to be removed totally.

There's no way the register is going to disappear.
B, C and E (rip), P cat always (last few decades atleast) needed to registered so that'd never going to change.

The new system is at minimum going to cover those guns that previously needed registration.

I'm not holding my breath on full registration going away but at the moment there is still that chance, hence why so many people have waited until now.

Ith current scheme, as of next year buying ammo will be a activating event. So if this review says the system stays I think many people will be decide to just bite the bullet and register their stuff.

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Originally Posted by Beetroot

With current scheme, as of next year buying ammo will be an activating event.

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And just how will that work?

Ill probably get shot to pieces for this one. Not the biggest fan of the rego thing but Id be happy if you do dumb shit that jepodises your fit and proper status that comes to the attention of the authoritys then you are required to register...

If you buy ammo from a dealer they will notify the FSA just like they do now if you buy a rifle etc. by the time you get home from the shop there will be an email waiting for you to advise you of this. I've just got my RealMe ID updated in preparation for my rego date.

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Originally Posted by No good names left

If you buy ammo from a dealer they will notify the FSA just like they do now if you buy a rifle etc. by the time you get home from the shop there will be an email waiting for you to advise you of this.

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So, one guy with a registered firearm is buying ammo for all his non registered mates... or ammo for his registered 223 to use in his unregistered 223...?

Just call me a cynic....

And there's the hole :D

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Originally Posted by blip

Ill probably get shot to pieces for this one. Not the biggest fan of the rego thing but Id be happy if you do dumb shit that jepodises your fit and proper status that comes to the attention of the authoritys then you are required to register...

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I think you will find if you get caught doing dumb shit they take your license now


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Originally Posted by Beetroot

Ith current scheme, as of next year buying ammo will be a activating event. So if this review says the system stays I think many people will be decide to just buy the bullets and register their stuff.

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Fixed it for you

I'm sure that this will ensure that the registry is a good idea. NOT https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/south-...H6HK2ZSZJUSMU/

I think that is a wonderful reason for why the registry should not be managed by the police, they have shown they simply cannot be trusted.