Thread: Colfo trust & confidence survey

If Colfo had drawn a line or grown a pair, what would you have had them do?

I ask this because in negotiations you derive power through having strong alternatives away from the table. For the last 9 years there haven't seemed to have been any for Colfo - sit at the table and talk for small gains - or walk away from the table to nothing.

Things might change now.

Originally Posted by Tahr

If Colfo had drawn a line or grown a pair, what would you have had them do?

I ask this because in negotiations you derive power through having strong alternatives away from the table. For the last 9 years there haven't seemed to have been any for Colfo - sit at the table and talk for small gains - or walk away from the table to nothing.

Things might change now.

Something else to consider, when the time comes regarding changes to the firearms act and COLFO ask for shooters to make submissions to police, no one bothers to do it. I think from memory the last time was a only few hundred out of 234K licenced firearms owners that made submissions, even after COLFO's lawyers had collected all the details together to make it simple for licenced firearms owners to submit. Its very difficult to "grow a pair" and stand up to police with the level of apathy and support displayed by shooters in NZ, but they keep on working for licenced firearms owners, because not to is defeat, and no one wants that do they.

Originally Posted by Percy Jones

Something else to consider, when the time comes regarding changes to the firearms act and COLFO ask for shooters to make submissions to police, no one bothers to do it. I think from memory the last time was a only few hundred out of 234K licenced firearms owners that made submissions, even after COLFO's lawyers had collected all the details together to make it simple for licenced firearms owners to submit. Its very difficult to "grow a pair" and stand up to police with the level of apathy and support displayed by shooters in NZ, but they keep on working for licenced firearms owners, because not to is defeat, and no one wants that do they.

Quite correct.... BUT, it seems that when pro-forma submissions are facilitated in the fashion that COLFO apparently did they often get shit-canned, rather than due consideration?

Originally Posted by Maxx

Quite correct.... BUT, it seems that when pro-forma submissions are facilitated in the fashion that COLFO apparently did they often get shit-canned, rather than due consideration?

Yes. Ive been on the compiling and reporting end. They are bundled and weighted. Substance is the significant factor, not repitition.

Originally Posted by Maxx

Quite correct.... BUT, it seems that when pro-forma submissions are facilitated in the fashion that COLFO apparently did they often get shit-canned, rather than due consideration?

When COLFO send out the information for a submission, they specify on their post NOT to cut and paste the info but to use the info and rewrite it into their own words to stop them being all classed together as only one submission. Maybe that isnt being done then.