Thread: Concerned

A work mate of mine had been havin a hard time of it after a break up and depression.
He asked if he could live at my place in his caravan to which i naturally replied "sure mate"
Over the last six? months he has been here he seemed to be on the up and up pretty positive and happy 95% of the time.
About a month ago we moved his gun safe in. And he notified the AO of change of add and he was coming to check security but have no idea if he has or not(should be fine proper safe bolted into concrete)
After a weekend at the "Xs" to spend time with his kids(they usually come here) he must have "stewed" on things and rather than wake me/us to talk, called the cops to come get him before he did something stupid. They took him to A&E where I presume he was sedated so he could sleep.
He was home today while I was at work and from what i can gather pretty much slept all day untill picked up by someone to go somewhere,Some kind of safe house & councilors type thing.(my lack of knowledge here is embarrassing but Im not being given any information)

So......... first thing I did when I got home was open his safe(i have keys but probably not the only set) thinking I would remove bolts etc if they were there.
303 no bolt ruger22 and pump shotty.

The cops if they had any brains would have asked for his bolt(s) when they picked him up?

Im thinking I should swap my firearms(Minus bolts ammo of course) into his safe except the 303s and his into mine(I hold the only keys to my safe)

Im 99% sure it would never happen but there is allways that 1%

Advice please

Do it, Im not saying he may do something dumb as I dont know him but there is always that chance, Better safe then sorry.

Do you feel unsafe mate?.Have a chat to the people who are dealing with him and tell them your situation do what you think will give you peice of mind.

Just move everything into your safe if there is room and leave nothing in his.
Regardless of what frame of mind he is in, he will understand why you have done it and thank you at some (sometimes very distant) time in the future.

Talk to him. Hes obviously enough of a mate that you let him live there. He will probably agree with you if he had the good sence to ask for help in the firsf place. If he doesnt feel the same just ask him to store them elsewhere as youre not comfortable or something along those lines. I just think at this stage he may feel a little betrayed if you make the call without talking to him, even if it is in his best interest.


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And I would hope that the cops or the hospital will be able to tell use where he is been staying.
Ring them and leave your contact details, though it will depend on what type of unit as to who he will or will not be allowed to contact.

Originally Posted by Toby

Do it, Im not saying he may do something dumb as I dont know him but there is always that chance, Better safe then sorry.

Im in the middle of sorting it all out at the mo(limited space) my first concern is obviously for his safety,secondly for my family's emotional well being if it did ever happen(im sure you would find a way firearm or not) and thirdly any repercussions from this on my legal ability to store firearms?

Well tbh if he wants to kill him self hes gonna do it,he wont need a gun either. but as long as you stop the firearms as being an option then no bad will come from anything in that sense.

you didnt mention you had a family mate! if your removing the fire arms your doing the rite thing.

Originally Posted by CreepingDeath

Talk to him. Hes obviously enough of a mate that you let him live there. He will probably agree with you if he had the good sence to ask for help in the firsf place. If he doesnt feel the same just ask him to store them elsewhere as youre not comfortable or something along those lines. I just think at this stage he may feel a little betrayed if you make the call without talking to him, even if it is in his best interest.


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The idea of the place im pretty sure is to have some alone time,I sent him a tx today when i found out telling him not to worry about work take as long as you need(im the boss again as the actual boss is away for the next few weeks) and I know he worrys about letting the team down.
Ill talk to him when he comes back.

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Im in the middle of sorting it all out at the mo(limited space) my first concern is obviously for his safety,secondly for my family's emotional well being if it did ever happen(im sure you would find a way firearm or not) and thirdly any repercussions from this on my legal ability to store firearms?

I would contact the police asap with your concerns, they can advise you re doing the right thing.
I have many police contacts here and they have always given me the best advise.

I'd be removing them and locking them at another mates place. No risk if they aren't there. Have had a few mates top themselves in different ways at least you can remove the guns as an option

You are doing the right thing cam put all of his firearms in your cabinet with your firearms , he also did the right thing by asking the cops to take him away to get professional help instead of taking the other way out. I am sure he will understand when you sit down and talk with him about it plus he is the right place till he can get well again, I suffered a similar thing when my marriage broke up until I got help.

VC go with your gut instinct on this. It will be right. Also, it wouldn't take much to have a locksmith re key the safe and then until you decide otherwise you would be the only one that could gain access.

Tell him that your moving his firearms and why you are doing it. Be sure to justify this with saying you have his best intentions in mind. My preference would to have them all stored off site where he doesn't know where. At least by communicating why you are doing so, he won't be in a position to be angry at you if he goes to find them and they are gone?