Concerned2 the cops arrive

Mister plod arrived this evening and asked the missus for mr"...." she yelled out "cop to see you babe" while I was having a leek..... nice one babe:D
He started explaining about how a license was being revoked which wasn't really a surprise until he referred to "my firearms" :wtfsmilie:
Slight communication issue as the missus didn't realize that his actual legal(everybody knows him by another) first name sounds just like my last name.
So once that was sorted out i was commended on removing the firearms and was asked if I had the only access to my safe,which of course is the case. Otherwise they were to be removed by the police.

So due to calling the police and a hospital stay his license is revoked until he appeals it within 3 months and can prove he is fitt and proper again.

The ruling on it as far as I can gather is the same as spousal/family violence etc.

Basically if he doesn't appeal in 3 months he is stuffed.

I could have this wrong but that is what i got from the brief conversation.

WOW. You still did a good deed VC and your mate has a couple of months to consider whether or not he wants to appeal. The due process of the law grinds on while the rest of us sleep.

Yep, you summed it up. It would help if he was seen to be doing something proactive about his situation, it would help his application. Some counselling in the first month or two, apply to get it back in the third...

Yep he is doing counciling, im getting him out when i can and doing my best to keep him away from the witch.

That would be the biggest and best move, cutting loose any baggage causing this... Hope it all works out for him. It all sounds too familiar

Unfortunately he has to see her to get the kids each weekend and some other reason during the week

Women aye? I think I may be better off sticking to my guns, That way I can have many and they wont get bitchy :)

I am still surprised they didnt secure the firearms that night or at least before he returned home, what if I wasn't a license holder?

Ahh.. good 'ol NZ politzei - efficiency plus. What if you were worse than him?

Hope the counseling is helping & will return some semblance of order to his world .Seems to me with a mate like you he going to be good ,suspect things will click back into place pretty soon . Sounds like his Ex is a proper bitch ,shame the kids a caught up in all the crap though .

The thing I still struggle with is that he's in the position of potentially never being able to use firearms again BECAUSE he asked for help.

My thoughts exactly

Me and my little brother + another one of our mates where at our other mates house his parents were drinking his dad went crazy with a side by side shotty saying he will kill his wife and shit, cops got him though took his licence. in 3 months he got it back. this is going back a while now though.4-5 years maybe

Hubby and I have had a big discussion about this Cam...it's an interesting one. Things sort of don't match up with who talks with who - by that I mean a Police officer isn't fit to tell someone they are nuts even if said person comes to them saying 'I'm nuts please help'. It's kind of messed up though because the arms officer that comes to your house to tell you that you are fit and proper is just a non-sworn member of police and not a shrink...

Anyway, interesting to mull it over from a study kind of mindset.

I farkn hate it when the cops turn up unless they coming hunting or fishing with me:yaeh am not durnk:Best of luck VC with ya mate

Some interesting points. I think that with your support Cam and counselling he should be right. Just keep things progressing.

I wouldn't be too hard on the police ,they appear to being impartial & fair in their approach .I'm sure they appreciate the situation by what you've told us VC. The cops are people too ,most of are good sorts & not little Hitlers.That type are a very small minority & generally don't last very long in the force.
The 1's in my family are good types ,funny buggers some times. Like turning up to give me a lift from air port & slapping the cuffs on & hauling me out by the scruff . Cuzie Goodeson's idea of a joke ,funny prick.
Consider maybe his Ex has stuck her 2 cents worth in by way of being nasty .
Just hope it all works out in his favor & he's able to retain his firearms .

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Women aye? I think I may be better off sticking to my guns, That way I can have many and they wont get bitchy :)

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is guns your code word for guys Toby?

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Toby guns don't talk back, woman do. You can have guns in different sizes but if you tried that with women they would get jealous of one another and make your life hell. You can lock a gun away when you don't want to handle it but try that with a woman and she will leave you in a flash. You are only seventeen Toby and you have twenty guns. If you had twenty women you wouldn't make it to eighteen. Stick with your guns for the moment young fellah there is plenty of time yet.

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Could well be

This is what I was looking for

Top 10 reasons a gun is better than a woman.
#10 You can trade an old 44 for a new 22 and even get money back!

#9 You can keep one gun at home and have another for when you're on the
road.

#8 If you admire a friend's gun and tell him so, he will probably
let you try it out a few times.

#7 Your primary gun doesn't mind if you keep another gun for a backup.

#6 Your gun will stay with you even if you run out of ammo.

#5 A gun doesn't take up a lot of closet space.

#4 Guns function normally every day of the month.

#3 A gun doesn't ask , "Do these new grips make me look fat?"

#2 A gun doesn't mind if you go to sleep after you use it.

And the number one reason a gun is better than a woman.

#1 YOU CAN BUY A SILENCER FOR A GUN

Is there a protection order in place or has one been applied for?

The licence will be suspended for three months, then will be revoked if not appealed.

I would suggest getting something in writing saying that you are now the owner of the firearms, because if his licence is revoked they have the power so seize and dispose of any weapons he has. I'm not saying they would, but there is every possibility that they would come knocking for his firearms.

The AO is happy the firearms have been removed to another location.
Protection order? against himself?
His parents are moving here soon so will move to his dads safe when available.
Cops came round again last night to give him the paperwork.
From what i can gather(second hand) they are happy for them to be out of his access until such time as his doctor gives written notice that he feels he is fit to be in possession of them again.

Conflicting information

Sorry, I was thinking that maybe his ex applied for a protection order.

I didn't get much sense out of the first post, there's some real 'expert' bush lawyer opinion out there and a couple of doozies in this thread

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Its a follow on from the "Concerned" thread,have you read that?

I know piss all about the legality's as Iv said many times.

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I wouldn't be too hard on the police ,they appear to being impartial & fair in their approach .I'm sure they appreciate the situation by what you've told us VC. The cops are people too ,most of are good sorts & not little Hitlers.That type are a very small minority & generally don't last very long in the force.
The 1's in my family are good types ,funny buggers some times. Like turning up to give me a lift from air port & slapping the cuffs on & hauling me out by the scruff . Cuzie Goodeson's idea of a joke ,funny prick.Consider maybe his Ex has stuck her 2 cents worth in by way of being nasty .
Just hope it all works out in his favor & he's able to retain his firearms .

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HILARIOUS

so what is the acual bones to this thread?

a mate is having marital and/or mental issues?

you are looking after his rifles till he is back in a good head space?

I am slighly confused

realistically I can see a valid point to speaking with the cops after a mental episode. due mainly to the point that not everyone gets better, some get worse. the last thing we want to see is someone sorting their problems out with a rifle pointed at either themselves or someone else.

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so what is the acual bones to this thread?

a mate is having marital and/or mental issues?

you are looking after his rifles till he is back in a good head space?

I am slighly confused

realistically I can see a valid point to speaking with the cops after a mental episode. due mainly to the point that not everyone gets better, some get worse. the last thing we want to see is someone sorting their problems out with a rifle pointed at either themselves or someone else.

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Read "concerned"

ok......I understand most of this except the re-applying within 3 months or he's stuffed part.

So does he need to get medical clearance within 3 months otherwise thats it? No more guns? If so, then thats a shitty deal. 3 months isn't long enough by any means. Otherwise he and youself have done the correct thing 100% through and it would be a kicker if a timeframe is put on someone trying to get well/stable.

Hope it all works out :)

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ok......I understand most of this except the re-applying within 3 months or he's stuffed part.

So does he need to get medical clearance within 3 months otherwise thats it? No more guns? If so, then thats a shitty deal. 3 months isn't long enough by any means. Otherwise he and youself have done the correct thing 100% through and it would be a kicker if a timeframe is put on someone trying to get well/stable.

Hope it all works out :)

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I dont know enough about it(the legalitys) I think he just has to appeal, then if and when his doctor says he is fit and proper he can have it back. (I think)

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ok......I understand most of this except the re-applying within 3 months or he's stuffed part.

So does he need to get medical clearance within 3 months otherwise thats it? No more guns? If so, then thats a shitty deal. 3 months isn't long enough by any means. Otherwise he and youself have done the correct thing 100% through and it would be a kicker if a timeframe is put on someone trying to get well/stable.

Hope it all works out :)

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Three months is the point where the licence goes from being "Suspended" to "Revoked". While it is suspended you can apply to have it reinstated, once it is revoked you have to go through the whole process again and they go over you with a fine tooth comb.

I think.

Cheers guys. Still think it's pretty stink they put such a short time frame on it.