Thread: Cop beaten and side arm taken.

Could have been a lot worse.

Courageous volunteers and passers-by intervene but... | Stuff.co.nz

Yup, good outcome to a scary situation.

Big ups to all the folks in blue out in the rural areas. Doing that kind of work, often on your own, takes a special kind of courage.

So they will start screaming arm the cops again.
"Griffin had gone to arrest a 19-year-old, who was wanted on outstanding warrants, shortly before 6pm on Friday" So why would he go sole on a job like that? (Cause he had a gun so thought he was good....)
Sounds much more like a major procedure change is needed.

Originally Posted by Wirehunt

So they will start screaming arm the cops again.
"Griffin had gone to arrest a 19-year-old, who was wanted on outstanding warrants, shortly before 6pm on Friday" So why would he go sole on a job like that? (Cause he had a gun so thought he was good....)
Sounds much more like a major procedure change is needed.

Yep this could well have ended in a dead cop and a pistol in the hands of a criminal.

If the cop had the gun out and the guy went to attack he could always shoot. I dont think any cop wants to kill another man but it hes outlaw and attacking...

Didn't the stuff article say he was the only cop on shift...? (Again, I'd hate to be the one person on! Scary!)

Only one in the area, Perhaps should have waited for backup?

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Only one in the area, Perhaps should have waited for backup?

Hindsight is a great thing huh. I'm sure the man thought he could handle it. The time it look to explain the situation in that interview would be ten fold the time the actual event took place. That's scary though, OC spray not taking effect...that 19yo would have been wild to brush it off and keep attacking. Not a nice thought.

Toby, its been proven over and over again that if someone is within 7m of a person with a holstered pistol, and rushes them, you do not have enough time to draw and shoot. Think about that for a minute, and match that to the typical style of policing in NZ. I've seen this first hand and trained for it, even against someone who has skills, experience AND is aware that you are about to rush them, you can still get to them with a knife / club ...

Dougie, pepperspray or teargas is no match for methamphetamine

That's a good point ebf.

Originally Posted by ebf

Dougie, pepperspray or teargas is no match for methamphetamine

Yeah my thoughts exactly but didn't want to jump to conclusions

Originally Posted by ebf

Toby, its been proven over and over again that if someone is within 7m of a person with a holstered pistol, and rushes them, you do not have enough time to draw and shoot.

And much past 7 metres the accuracy is terrible as shown by the high fail rate of NZ police accuracy tests.

This is a procedure thing pure and simple, in fact OSH should be stepping in and fining the police for procedure fails.

Positive thoughts going out to Griff, and wishes of a speedy recovery.

Let the disection by internet experts begin!!
BTW all my experiances with sole charge cops have been good, it's city ones that have P#$%ed me off.

End of the day we can all coulda shoula woulda till the cows come home and change nothing.

Thing that concerns me is a handgun could have got into criminal hands directly from the police, the opposite of what should happen! and its not the first time!
I dont have the answers, no doubt there will be an investigation of some sort into what went wrong and how to prevent it in the future.

I only hope they get it right!