Thread: Cop beaten and side arm taken.

Could have been a lot worse.

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Yup, good outcome to a scary situation.

Big ups to all the folks in blue out in the rural areas. Doing that kind of work, often on your own, takes a special kind of courage.

So they will start screaming arm the cops again.
"Griffin had gone to arrest a 19-year-old, who was wanted on outstanding warrants, shortly before 6pm on Friday" So why would he go sole on a job like that? (Cause he had a gun so thought he was good....)
Sounds much more like a major procedure change is needed.

Originally Posted by Wirehunt

So they will start screaming arm the cops again.
"Griffin had gone to arrest a 19-year-old, who was wanted on outstanding warrants, shortly before 6pm on Friday" So why would he go sole on a job like that? (Cause he had a gun so thought he was good....)
Sounds much more like a major procedure change is needed.

Yep this could well have ended in a dead cop and a pistol in the hands of a criminal.

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Yep this could well have ended in a dead cop and a pistol in the hands of a criminal.

Shit the cops need more controls on their firearms!!

Originally Posted by Maca49

Shit the cops need more controls on their firearms!!

maca, why don't you stop the next cop you see and have a chat to him/her about the controls they have in place regarding storage of firearms in response cars, and the process they have to follow before getting authorization to use the firearm...

Might be an eye opener for you...

Originally Posted by ebf

maca, why don't you stop the next cop you see and have a chat to him/her about the controls they have in place regarding storage of firearms in response cars, and the process they have to follow before getting authorization to use the firearm...

Might be an eye opener for you...

They may also look at the rules of engagement

I have to agree, 5 on one shoot one then overrun by other four could be another story.reality is to have more cop's imo

If the cop had the gun out and the guy went to attack he could always shoot. I dont think any cop wants to kill another man but it hes outlaw and attacking...

Originally Posted by Toby

If the cop had the gun out and the guy went to attack he could always shoot. I dont think any cop wants to kill another man but it hes outlaw and attacking...

Nah Toby, the public and media crucifies a cop over here if they shoot someone to defend themselves. You see it time and time again.

Not only would the officer have to come to grips with the fact they just killed someone, the media would drag them and their family through the news and papers, calling it "excessive force" and going on about how it wasn't necessary, basically calling for the cops head... without being there.

Screw sending our cops into some of the shit they have to deal with unarmed. It's not like the crims are unarmed.

I think as a nation we need to harden up to criminals and give some real punishment. Assault a cop in he line of duty and get 20 years,if it doesn't work as a deterent well at they would not be causing no harm to others. I glad none of my kids are policemen

Didn't the stuff article say he was the only cop on shift...? (Again, I'd hate to be the one person on! Scary!)

Only one in the area, Perhaps should have waited for backup?

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Only one in the area, Perhaps should have waited for backup?

Hindsight is a great thing huh. I'm sure the man thought he could handle it. The time it look to explain the situation in that interview would be ten fold the time the actual event took place. That's scary though, OC spray not taking effect...that 19yo would have been wild to brush it off and keep attacking. Not a nice thought.

Toby, its been proven over and over again that if someone is within 7m of a person with a holstered pistol, and rushes them, you do not have enough time to draw and shoot. Think about that for a minute, and match that to the typical style of policing in NZ. I've seen this first hand and trained for it, even against someone who has skills, experience AND is aware that you are about to rush them, you can still get to them with a knife / club ...

Dougie, pepperspray or teargas is no match for methamphetamine