Thread: Cops have two Glocks stolen in Gore.

Originally Posted by sightpicture

Do you actually believe this, and / or do you research it? I suppose you could add, "for some values of 'soon'"...

Data points:

1. The Herald today revealed how a patched Headhunter was able to legally buy $30,000 worth of high powered rifles between 2012 and 2015, before police revoked his firearms licence in January. When police went to revoke the licence, the man had legally on-sold the weapons and they were unable to be retrieved.

2. Police would not comment..., except to say it was "very rare for a patched gang member to be issued a firearms licence". Very rare does not mean, doesn't happen. And, inquiring minds would like 'very rare' defined, mmkay?

3. Gang members to be blocked from firearms licenses... (note the tense of -to be-, = it's bin happenin' and everybody knows it has...

There's a whole lot more info out there that identifies your commentary as, shall we just say, optimistic. For some values of optimism.

What’s not identifiable in your post or what’s not identifiable in the news report is at what stage did that person become a gang member after all I don’t trust the news 100% as they will leave out key facts!

Was he a patched gang member prior to applying or after he was granted his license?

The same article you quote from sightpicture also mentions

“However, a Disctrict Court judgement from Masterton last month revealed how under current New Zealand law, being a member of an orgnaised criminal group does not necessarily exempt someone from a gun licence.

The case centred around Bandidos gang member Wade Victor Innes, from Wairarapa, appealing the revocation of his firearm licence.

Innes was first issued his licence in 1997 and it was renewed in 2007. Police confiscated his licence in July 2015 when they found Innes to no longer be a "fit and proper" person based on his membership to the Bandidos and because he broke licensing rules by failing to tell police when he changed address.

He appealed the decision, and his case was heard before Judge Tompkins in November.

When it came to gang associations, the judge drew on previous cases in judges ruled gang association was irrelevent to revoking a firearm licence.

"There is a short and now somewhat dated line of authority in favour of Mr Innes' association with the Bandidos gang being irrelevent," he said.

Instead, Judge Tompkins found that it was a culmination of factors that saw him lose the appeal.

He did not advice of his address changes, he was a member of the gang, he did not surrendor his physical licence or guns, and that other members of the gang were likely to be able to access his firearms.

"The cumulative effect of all the above is that Mr Innes is not a fit and proper person to hold a firearms licence."

Sightpicture, seeing as your so good at research & everybody apparently knows it’s been happening then please feel free to tell me the names of any patches gang members or prospects of any criminal gang who have their gun licenses?

Even PM me that information!