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steven Darwin is getting slow in his... 31-12-2014, 08:12 PM
Frogfeatures Need ? Probably not, want... 31-12-2014, 08:43 PM
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Banana "Since the gun ban in 1996,... 04-01-2015, 08:45 AM
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ebf Banana, so I take it you're... 05-01-2015, 01:54 PM
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res Correct me if I'm wrong, but... 06-01-2015, 11:06 PM
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    Quote Originally Posted by Koshogi View Post
    Violence is not increasing, it is decreasing. The US is at a 40 year low for violent crime. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/24/us/24crime.html

    Gun crime has been dropping in the US (like everywhere else) since the 90s, which is when Americans started the push towards more CCW rights. Are they related? I would say they've helped, but wouldn't be the major factor. Correlation doesn't mean causation.

    The fact is though is that there are more guns in the USA than ever before and gun crime has fallen. Gun crime has many more factors than merely the availability of guns.
    The intensity of the violence has increased over the years, rather the actual numbers.

    And for the USA, if a good guy carrying a gun can beat a bad guy carrying the gun, the USA should be the safest country in the world

    For a sheer numbers perspective, unfortunately this story is jut a blip on the radar.
    Gun-death tally: Every American gun death since Newtown Sandy Hook shooting (INTERACTIVE).

    Every icon is clickable to find out how/where they died. And that report ended Dec 2013.

    We could go round and round in circles debating what happens in another country, but I'm very happy to live in good ol' NZ tbh
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