Thread: Dealer to Dealer Firearms transport

After sending and receiving a couple of firearms just recently there is some thing I am curious about regarding this process. During the courier transport of the firearm I imagine at some point it ends up in a courier van where the driver does not have a F/L. Just wondering if any members can shed light on this. Or maybe I'm wrong and the extra high cost of the send (around $60) is because the firearm must be on a courier where the driver does have a F/L.
For a recent send I did, one store was reluctant to receive the firearm and I was told the reason for this was because whoever was tasked with Inwards goods at this particular store did not have a F/L so legally they could not sign for and receive the firearm as inwards goods. A bit of an anomaly there if the Courier does not have a F/L.
The system does seem to work quite well and I would hate to see further restriction on sending Firearms. So definitely do not want to rock this boat, I'm just curious.

The truck driver shifting the pallet of arms from customs clearance to the dealer probably doesn't have a firearm license either. Lets not make this more difficult than it has to be.

Understand that if the store holds a dealers license the staff need FA license. This was one of the reasons that Farmlands stopped selling ammo. The Dealer to Dealer charge is not the Courier cost alone, some outlets have incorporated a "handling" fee at both ends. Best I've seen is the old Hamills from Manukau City who are still selling off stock from shop closure, $125 for Dealer to Dealer. Couriers have not needed a license to cart firearms as part of their business. Know of more than one firearm related business who use other courier firms and pay far less than Dealer to Dealer charges.

Originally Posted by Tasbay

The truck driver shifting the pallet of arms from customs clearance to the dealer probably doesn't have a firearm license either. Lets not make this more difficult than it has to be.

Definitely not my intention to take this any further than casual conversation here. I can live with the system as it is. However the issue of firearms transport speaks volumes to the ambiguities in the system and one of the big reasons why legitimate firearms owners become hardcore cynics.
My other family members who do not have a F/L are not even permitted to know how to access my secure firearms storage area. When I travel with firearms I must remove the bolt or otherwise immobilize said firearm.
but an unlicensed courier can drive around the countryside with firearms in their van, without the need to immobilize that firearm by storing the bolt in a separate location or install a trigger lock of removing the bolt is not applicable. The laws an ASS.

Furniture removal Co doing our shift have refused to handle anything f/a related.

Originally Posted by zeropak

Definitely not my intention to take this any further than casual conversation here. I can live with the system as it is. However the issue of firearms transport speaks volumes to the ambiguities in the system and one of the big reasons why legitimate firearms owners become hardcore cynics.
My other family members who do not have a F/L are not even permitted to know how to access my secure firearms storage area. When I travel with firearms I must remove the bolt or otherwise immobilize said firearm.
but an unlicensed courier can drive around the countryside with firearms in their van, without the need to immobilize that firearm by storing the bolt in a separate location or install a trigger lock of removing the bolt is not applicable. The laws an ASS.

Just aimed at making our lives a difficult as possible. I sold a rifle the other week, one week to get the police form emailed to me from his AO

Courrier are exempt from needing a firearm licence to transport firearms. I believe that is in the law actually.
Hop that answers your question

Originally Posted by Ingrid 51

Furniture removal Co doing our shift have refused to handle anything f/a related.

good reason to find another company...

Originally Posted by zeropak

Definitely not my intention to take this any further than casual conversation here. I can live with the system as it is. However the issue of firearms transport speaks volumes to the ambiguities in the system and one of the big reasons why legitimate firearms owners become hardcore cynics.
My other family members who do not have a F/L are not even permitted to know how to access my secure firearms storage area. When I travel with firearms I must remove the bolt or otherwise immobilize said firearm.
but an unlicensed courier can drive around the countryside with firearms in their van, without the need to immobilize that firearm by storing the bolt in a separate location or install a trigger lock of removing the bolt is not applicable. The laws an ASS.

Now tell us whom you are going to vote or this election. Moron 1 or Moron 2 party. LOL.

Originally Posted by Friwi

Courrier are exempt from needing a firearm licence to transport firearms. I believe that is in the law actually.
Hop that answers your question

Couriers etc are covered under the carriage of goods act. Part of the logic around not requiring FAL is discretion around what is in the parcel. Imagine if Jewelry had to be labelled as "valuble" so it did not get misdelivered...I suspect more would go missing as it screasm "steal me"......

Similar laws apply to Police and military ersonell who also do not require a FAL in the process of doing their jobs. Ironic in that they are required to handle and use firearms that almost no one in the country is allowed to own ....including themselves.....