Thread: Discharge Without Conviction

Originally Posted by ebf

What I still am trying to understand is why you pick those 4 specifically ? As someone else mentioned already, the majority of politicians are lawyers.

I was replying to Ultimitsu "Lawyers, or legally educated people, form a large portion of people that run most western democracies. This is the necessary outcome of having any proper governance system that observes the rule of law. Law is very difficulty, it takes a lot of training to understand the Law. The law is probably the most complex "purely-man-made" science. Our laws today is the product of 1000 years of legal thinking of past lawyers, judges, and politicians.

25 past US presidents has passed the Bar, that is about 60%. that list includes most of the better ones such as Jefferson, Lincoln, FDR."

Just saying that having studied law doesn't make you somehow worthier of deciphering "Law is very difficulty", esp seeing as the discipline isn't A) a science, and B) only 1000 years old (maybe he means dating back to the Magna Carta, which was very difficulty to read-y). Maybe Lee Kuan Yew should have got a mention, with his double starred first class honours in law from Cambridge, Soe Bais next 20 years may have looked a little different.

Not at all Just pointing out that there is a difference between binding and non-binding referendum, and the ones you chose to mention were all non-binding.

was answering:

So why is it then that "MOST NZers" have not taken the opportunity given to them every couple of years to vote in a party that stands for hard-line justice standards ?

Politicians lie cheat and steal. Binding referendum is the only way to get them to do what they were fucking elected to do. Ask any Winston First voter.