Thread: E cat safe/safe room options

Originally Posted by Savage1

You're assuming that it is only possible by spending billions like Canada, when we have one running here that costs very little. South Africa's problems have little, if anything, to do with their firearm registration and is a ridiculous comparison.

Let's be clear about what we're discussing - universal registration. Canada has registered firearms, New Zealand has registered firearms, South Africa has registered (all, except black powder) firearms.

It is not an assumption but an evidence based fact that Canada's attempt to introduce universal registration was a costly and cataclysmic failure. As far as the New Zealand system is concerned, presuming we're discussing the register of B, C, D, E, F - by far the least numerous firearms in the country - how much does it cost exactly?

Can you please define "very little"?

From what I've seen documented on this forum and others, the NZ firearm registry is often comically inaccurate. If we combined inspection periods even more so. I have not had my annual inspection since I've lived at my current residence, which is a number of years. I've even mentioned it to my arms officer more than once when I've processed P2Ps.

If the NZP cannot administer the existing system effectively, how can one expect them to administer one with universal registration - when there are thousands of already unregistered firearms out in the wild? I certainly wouldn't want my or anyone else's hard earned taxes being squandered addressing what is essentially a non-issue in the greater scheme of problems facing this country.

I'd rather spend that money on my child's education or making sure that I'm not a burden on the health system or any number of other more tangible reasons.

As for South Africa - if you read my posts again carefully, I am referring to licensed firearm owners, registration, the non-effect it has on reducing firearm related crime in that country (or any country really) and the continued legislative push to introduce further firearm restrictions - in a country where poor and rich, need their firearms the most.