Thread: E cat safe/safe room options

Originally Posted by Savage1

That's all unknowns really, I do think more come from 'naughty sales' than people think.

These "Naughty sales" raise another point. How many firearms "disappeared" when the MSSA came in? Or when Aussie did its major buy back / ban? From what I hear from a plumber from Oz that used to work where I work, that year he sold out of large diameter PVC and end caps as fast as he could source them. (Heresay I realise...), and pre MSSA rifles such as the mini 14 with the 30rnd mags, 10/22s with the bananas and SKS unaltered ones that were now only able to be sold to the black market as they could not be sold on the open market.

If these laws were enacted PRIOR to these types of firearms entering the country then it would be workable (Whether it is right or wrong is not the point) but introducing a ban or change like this has several affects, 1) these firearms that are already here become harder to sell legitimately, and harder to buy legitimately 2) the price lowers for illegitimate sales as there is no longer legitimate sales point to compete with. For example, think in the early 90s when the SKS first hit the market at $299. They sold like hotcakes, cheap, reliable and cheap to feed with milsurp ammo. Then they change the rules to say 7 rounds only. Options spend $100 (or there about at the time) to modify it, spend $200 on an endorsement each year (pointless when you want a cheap rifle) or flick it off at $200 to "someone at the pub" who doesn't mind the problem. While I do not know of any myself that vanished, I also only know of a few that were altered to A-cat. So how many SKS rifles made it to E cat, how many were imported and how many vanished? And was this what the law maker actually wanted to happen? (I guess No is that answer)

Final big question: Did this law change encourage less or more rifles went into criminal hands?