Has anyone heard of a gun theft being solved by security camera records ?
Either personal experience or “A mate told me about this …”.
Was the thief convicted ? Was the firearm recovered ?
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Has anyone heard of a gun theft being solved by security camera records ?
Either personal experience or “A mate told me about this …”.
Was the thief convicted ? Was the firearm recovered ?
ive installed at multiple sites, i know that the pub that got robbed the police used the footage to convict the felon
I’ve got a couple of Ring cameras on my section. Alert me if they pick up people and save video to the cloud( a.k.a. Someone else’s computer).
Rate it as I can check alerts remotely.
Only piss around is, it sometimes alerts if it’s really windy and the trees move too much.
Works at night too.
we had a serious fire next door at11 40pm,destroyed neighbours state unit.
fire service fire investigators viewed our footage today to track the timeline and it was a+one is due back tommorow to download it as part of their documentation.
In fact looking at the whole thing is bloody chilling including me keeping the boundary fence wet via garden hose as bloody fire swirled in front of me.
so CCTVsecurity gets a+++++++++++from me.
i installed a 9 camera system from jaycar and since then we havent had any visitors.. It used to be a regular occurence
We have security camera's on our road a few people have had a door knock by the men and ladies in blue now. Also believe there has been a conviction. Its say a 45 minutes between the two cameras so if a vehicle has taking two hours you know its up to no good at 1am in the morning.
A mate also has them on his batch one on the drive and one mounted inside house looking on to rear deck. Any alerts are sent to his cell phone
Gun thief no but anything to help you out these days, if its a clear picture it will help.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bagheera
Paeroa deerstalkers club rooms were broken into 5-6 years back, no guns or ammo kept on site but the offender was apprehended due to CCTV
The latest tech is going colour. Helps hugely with identification because you can tell the colour of clothing worn, or the colour of the vehicle. Only downside is that it's not 'covert' because it requires a visible light to illuminate the colour.
We had a break in at work a couple of months ago (inside job).
As a result we needed a temporary camera system to cover us until the business shut down (120 year old business, victim of Labours three waters debacle).
I purchased two Eufy security camera systems from PBTech. https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/CCT...ee-Security-Ca
I have to say that I am pretty impressed. It's all wireless, solar charged, worked flawlessly in terms of wifi connectivity and alerts to my phone.
Only downside is that it is not a continuous recording system. It only records once it has a detection, and then records for a fixed duration per activation. Fast moving vehicles were also an issue in that they can drive past in the time it takes for the camera to wake up and start recording, so camera placement is critical, which is the case no matter what system you have in place.
The resolution required for a conviction on the camera image alone is very high and cameras that can achieve that are very expensive, particularly night vision. Higher camera resolution alone is not necessarily the key, because typically the higher the resolution, the slower the shutter speed, which results in more motion blur, which degrades any still image facial resolution. A higher resolution chip capable of faster shutter speeds and good environmental lighting are keys to good images of perp's.
you can go from supercheap to damn expensive, i installed stuff in pubs that could read a banknote serial number at 4 meters. iy all comes down to budget, account of cameras needed and storage needed. i personally dont like wireless unless there is no other option due to cabling issues
Just a heads up there's a lot of bad shit going on with EUFY at the moment (cameras and recorded images can be wiped easily, sends photos back to the mothership - China, base station wifi security is crap so people can watch your cameras live).Quote:
Originally Posted by hotbarrels
If you want to spend time on a DIY, you can pickup a decent 4k camera with "colour nightvision" (it's just an LED spotlight that turns on when the NV detects a human) for about $43US from Aliexpress). Same as gonetropo I don't like wireless. But i'd guess half a dozen ali-express cameras, + a crappy PC for a server + software + POE switch came out around just over a $1000 kiwi.
I bought a cheap pan and zoom camera off TradeMe a few years ago and set it up in the shed. I had to put a range extender in the bedroom window for the wifi to reach far enough for it though.
I can view live from my laptop or phone.
It detects movements and sends pictures by email - well it used to. Now that gmail won't allow third party apps to access my account (or something like that) it no longer works. Anyone know a work around or other option?
Thanks Guys,
I can see colour would help catch them
and a bit of thought on location to get number plates
I'm guessing some proof of them actually leaving with the gun would be worthwhile too.
Just capturing them inside your property is enough to have them charged with burglary if they aren't supposed to be there.
Capturing an image of them leaving with your guns would be gold plated.
Identity is the main issue. Who are they??
If they wear gloves and a balaclava, images aren't worth much unless they are caught nearby with said balaclavas in their possession.
Most of these arseholes are forensically aware. It would be unlikely to get a DNA match or fingerprints twice.
Set broken glass into the concrete on top of your walls, that way you get a blood sampleQuote:
Originally Posted by tac a1
Acquaintance in South Africa had all the wheels off his truck AND trailer stolen from a compound: 10 foot concrete brick wall, broken bottles set into the top, three layers of insulated barbed wire above that, running mains through it (tut tut), and still all gone. Dogs poisoned, big layers of old carpet over all the defences, wooden ladders, man operated home made crane, etc etc for the heavy stuff. (late 1990's).
Cameras will only catch the dumb ones.
Yet there are thousands and thousands of cctv videos where the offenders glance up at the camera, giving a nice clear shot of their face then continue on.Quote:
Originally Posted by tac a1
There's also the added bonus is that modern systems are not passive, i.e. they will fire off an alert which you can act on (e.g. phone mr plod and say they're 2 balaclava guys stealing firearms from my house right now)
I've got 5 of the Ring cameras, have caught 2 x dipshits on my property. One was ID'd by my boss as a known local crack head, boss rang up his slightly less cracked out brother and told him to stay the fuck away or else. The other was a lost bin man looking to collect a bin from next door.
All infra red, motion detect, microphone and speaker, you can daisy chain them so other cameras start recording when the one is tripped, set zones within their fields of view to ignore. They are wifi, so I can monitor them from overseas, yell at the cat to get off the kitchen bench. Battery powered, so I have an extra battery that is on charge, and I swap one out every weekend or two (each lasts a few months). They each have their own alert tone, so I can hear my phone go and know where to go without having to open my phone and destroy my night vision at 2am.
Having dealt with these idiots for years, yep, you're right. Some of them do look into the cameras for the chance at making an appearance on 'Worlds dumbest Burglars' on late night Tv.Quote:
Originally Posted by vulcannz
However, most of the ones that are professional burglars who target firearms are very aware of camera systems. They do wear 'burglary gears' Ie gloves, overalls, balaclavas etc. They usually do something to disable any security system before the enter the address. They will have planned and have burglary 'tools' with them. Those cordless grinders with the cutting disks are dynamite on anything steel really.
They aren't stupid and are very rarely caught on the job. Most of the time it's because something happens after the fact, like they have a car crash with the stolen guns in the car, or they sell the guns to an undercover cop etc.
There are a hell of a lot more guns stolen than are ever recovered. Where do they all go????? There's lots of theories. F all evidence
Yet they cannot prove these assertions. Unfortunately I suspect that there are still people out there who will buy stolen goods like this.
I can't prove that theory either. But when was the last time someone came around and checked all the serial numbers of your guns??
Never probably. Dont think that I'm stupid enough to think that anyone with stolen guns in their safe would have them in there when the local sheriff came calling to check serial numbers.
Thats just a theory.
I know most guys with firearms are good honest people. Like most things, it only takes a few rotten apples to upset everything
...And even fewer rotten ones on the other side and the whole things a waste of time and energy
Indeed.
My day job entails trying to monitor 200 plus high quality cameras.
I would guess around 5% are actually useful ;)
I wonder if he will go back to dying his hair so he looks more authoritative.Quote:
Originally Posted by muzza
Sorry but as I said now the cameras are more active than passive. If you want to take out any of my cameras you need get to the camera, that means an alert will be sent before you have a chance to disable it.Quote:
Originally Posted by tac a1
That said, my monitoring system will generate an alert of loss of signal for a camera with the large image received before loss.
That said my cameras all tend to have a bit of overlap.
My expectation is a professional burglar will see my cameras and think 'it's not worth it'. There are plenty of other houses around without our security system (which is cameras/dogs/alarm/mother in law and of course the safe).
I have pretty much the same line up except for the mother in law ( although one of my Great Danes is a bitch if that counts).Quote:
Originally Posted by vulcannz
If you have something that they want and they are switched on enough, they will get it, no matter how much you put in their way. The professional ones don't get caught and they do exist in NZ.Quote:
Originally Posted by vulcannz
In reality I doubt it cos all these scumbags need is a baseball cap and a hoodieQuote:
Originally Posted by Bagheera
iagree and as ive often said if they really want it theyll get it ..our job is just to frustrate them in the task in as many ways as possibleQuote:
Originally Posted by tac a1
One thing that you may be overlooking here, is that with the modern security systems that include notification, if someone does enter your 'space', you will get notified immediately of the intrusion. This gives you options for how to deal with the situation. If you are home, you can respond appropriately. If you are not, you can call the police.
I recommend putting a small uninterrupted power supply on you modem and any network switches to keep them powered up for 10 minutes in case the perp's kill the power to your property in an effort to drop out cameras.
I just got an alert as I was reading the post above. I checked it out and it was the cleaner I the lounge.
looks like some cameras are too effective though... Oz is now reconsidering the wisdom of having installed wi-fi enabled chinese cameras in government buildings. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-02-...ings/101950236
1) Government agencies don't use wifi enabled cameras.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buffer
2) if you're in a government agency and you cannot stop [any brand of camera] accessing the internet then you are in the wrong job
It's a storm in a teacup and tactic used to stir up sales for US based vendors (who get their cameras made in china anyway)
And I've just ordered a couple of balloons from China to watch over my place. Bugger.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buffer
Reminds me of the topic and lyrics in this song:Quote:
Originally Posted by Gamehunter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7EmLiFWeI8
I have some camera's at my place. The notification's are only useful if a few people live at the house. I have a few flat mates who come and go all of the time + it goes off when a car goes past on the main road. I used to get notification's all of the time.
they are only there to assist any investigation or if I move to a lower traffic area then they'd be good for prompt 111 phone calls. The video quality is quite good.
You need to do better. My system has object recognition as well as facial recognition (you can get free software that does this). By the time I get an alert it has had to pass certain object recognition thresholds in specific zones.Quote:
Originally Posted by Russian 22.
For example, front door camera triggers on motion. It only sends me an alert if it sees a person, dog, or cat:
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I was pissing around with the AI on my system today, and the mother in law (short asian) was mucking around outside with a big sunhat on... it kept detecting her as a fire hydrant :D
With Ring cameras if you go into the settings there is a 'person detection' mode that will record all motion events but only notify you when it determines that the moving object is a person. Works pretty well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boner
