Is this 'fair'?

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Originally Posted by tetawa

Pack and rifle were left unattended at the railway station while you wandered off to the local "milk bar" or pub. Crime hasn't increased since those days?

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Younger Brother picked his first centrefire rifle up on the way home from school in his uniform. No drivers license yet at that stage so walked from Gunshop to Dads shop in town holding it and went home with dad after work.....

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Originally Posted by blip

I've heard stories from some old guys that used to jump on the bus with a rifle back in the day and no one raised an eyebrow

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I resemble that remark

Biked home from Gun City in Barbadoes St 41 yrs ago with a .303 over my shoulder in school uniform. First rifle no one batted an eye couldn't afford a gun bag.

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Originally Posted by 7mmwsm

I was about to ask that same question.
The firearm is not visible/concealed if it is in a case.
If the case has to be concealed, then does an empty case have to be concealed also?
I have heard of people being reprimanded for having an empty ammo box visible in their vehicle.
People need to grow some balls and stand up to bullshit intimidation such as this.

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My 10c and anyone in the know please feel free to correct:

If the case conceals the firearm then the firearm is concealed as per law. As has been pointed out, this is not a particularly effective way of concealing a firearm. When one reads into the intent of the law, it is to avoid people knowing there is a firearm in the vehicle when it is left unattended.
For at least 25 years The arms code has provided similar guidance for leaving a firearm in a vehicle where this is the best option in an unforseeable circumstance.

Putting the technicalities of the law to the side for a moment, I don’t leave items visible in my vehicle that suggest the presence of firearms because it reduces the chance of someone breaking into the vehicle. When I leave a gunbag in the vehicle to go hunting, I fold it and put it under the seat, otherwise it looks like there could be a firearm in the vehicle. Same as not leaving any other valuables visible in an unattended vehicle.

You could have a firearm in a case in a car and be compliant or you could have a firearm in a case in a car where the case cant be seen and be compliant plus reduce the chance of vehicle break ins.

As for covering a case, an oilskin coat works pretty good for that, I just keep mine in the vehicle and it comes in handy for rainy days too.

I leave my gunbag/case in plain view but open so clearly no gun inside it.....when parked at roadend etc but agree with you longshot,out of sight out of mind..I also park my wagon on as steep of sideways angle as I can..good luck jacking it up to pinch wheels.

Ican remember in the late 1960s,being a boarder at St Bedes in christchurch.travel back to the coast was via railcar(now tranzalpine) and manys the time chch rilway station platfforms would see swarthy buggers in shorts swandris bush shirts and hobnai boots with huge pac kand rifle in hand heading for arthurs pas or such like .friendly guards would offer to stow rifle in the guards van and stop the railcar between cass &arthurs for them and trampers to disembark ,and on the return trip remebark .noone thought anything of it ,leat of all us who were trying to concealed our ill gotten beers and attempting to snog a good catholic girl or two.
actaully a while ago id been on the coast and had a fairly extensive armoury in the back of the truck-under a layer of swannies and assorted gear .bugger me coning out of Darfield acop car pulls in behind me and followed me all the way to christchurch.shit my paranoia levels went sky high .eventually shrugged em off on outskirts of chch ,thank god!