Thread: FAL licensing question

Originally Posted by Sidney

No he is not legally required to have storage if he does not have a firearm. That won't stop the arms officers telling him that he is though.

Sidney is right, there is no legal requirement to have storage prior to gaining a FAL.

However common sense will also dictate that should the new shooter change his mind 1 day after gaining a license, he can go out and purchase a firearm with no checked security, which is bad for all of us if said firearm was to be easily stolen as it was sitting under the bed.

Therefore the AO will insist/obsfucate the vetting process.

tldr: get security if you want a FAL because one day you may change your mind and buy a firearm. If it's too hard to do, don't get a FAL.

Originally Posted by Kscott

Sidney is right, there is no legal requirement to have storage prior to gaining a FAL.

However common sense will also dictate that should the new shooter change his mind 1 day after gaining a license, he can go out and purchase a firearm with no checked security, which is bad for all of us if said firearm was to be easily stolen as it was sitting under the bed.

Therefore the AO will insist/obsfucate the vetting process.

tldr: get security if you want a FAL because one day you may change your mind and buy a firearm. If it's too hard to do, don't get a FAL.

There is a requirement to have secure storage in the FAL holders residence.

Arms Regulations 1992
19 Conditions relating to security precautionshttp://www.legislation.govt.nz/regul...DLM169122.html
(1)Every firearms licence shall be subject to the following conditions:
(2) On and after 1 July 1993 the reasonable steps required by subclause (1)(c) shall include—
(a)keeping on the holder’s premises—
(i)a lockable cabinet, container, or receptacle of stout construction in which firearms may be stored; or
(ii)a lockable steel and concrete strongroom in which firearms may be stored; or
(iii)a display cabinet or rack in which firearms may be immobilised and locked so that none of them may be fired; and
(b)keeping locked or immobilised and locked in the cabinet, container, receptacle, strongroom, display cabinet, or rack required by paragraph (a) every firearm which is on the holder’s premises and which is not under immediate and personal supervision of the holder or some other holder of a firearms licence; and...

Originally Posted by Koshogi

There is a requirement to have secure storage in the FAL holders residence.

Arms Regulations 1992
19 Conditions relating to security precautionsArms Regulations 1992 (SR 1992/346) (as at 11 December 2013) 19 Conditions relating to security precautions – New Zealand Legislation
(1)Every firearms licence shall be subject to the following conditions:
(2) On and after 1 July 1993 the reasonable steps required by subclause (1)(c) shall include—
(a)keeping on the holder’s premises—
(i)a lockable cabinet, container, or receptacle of stout construction in which firearms may be stored; or
(ii)a lockable steel and concrete strongroom in which firearms may be stored; or
(iii)a display cabinet or rack in which firearms may be immobilised and locked so that none of them may be fired; and
(b)keeping locked or immobilised and locked in the cabinet, container, receptacle, strongroom, display cabinet, or rack required by paragraph (a) every firearm which is on the holder’s premises and which is not under immediate and personal supervision of the holder or some other holder of a firearms licence; and...

Cheers. That appears to be the answer Im looking for.

Originally Posted by Koshogi

There is a requirement to have secure storage in the FAL holders residence.

(a)keeping on the holder’s premises—

Are not the same, never have been.

It's just yet another example of poorly written legislation.