Oh FFS,
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Oh FFS,
I just went through the renewal process at the Munroe building in Nelson a week ago , they couldnt have been more helpful and it was quick and painless for myself and my wife who they interviewed.
They said my second referee would be interviewed over the phone .
I havent talked to him lately to see if they have rung him yet .
I can tell you that compared to the Australian system it is a bit more complicated though , in OZ I recently renewed my licence online and had it confirmed within 24 hours , no interviews or personal questions .
Butttttt...... originally getting the license was 10 times harder than it was in NZ .
Ken
I put my application in early Aug, my FAL was expiring mid Oct. But I was overseas from late Aug until late Sept (should have been better organised and done it earlier but got busy) and they didn't contact me about the interview until I was away, so that didn't happen until early Oct after I got back . Vetter said everything was fine, interviewed referees the same day and said she'd get the paperwork signed off straight away because the expiry date was pretty soon.
Early Dec I was wondering where it was and went to the cop shop to ask about it. Girl at the desk looks it up on the computer and says something along the lines of "oh thats strange, it says it was printed 28 Oct but it must have got lost somewhere, I'll get them to print another one and send it out..."
It finally arrived early Jan.
So 6 months should be ok.
On the positive said, the girl at the police station said not having the physical license wasn't a big issue because the computer said my license was valid, and if I wanted to buy ammo etc I could just get the gun shop to ring the station and they would confirm it was ok, and any cops that wanted to check it would just radio in for a check as well.
They warned me that there was a delay in getting them processed and others I spoke to said allow 3 - 5 months. So I allowed 3 months and applied for a Sept renewal in July. They had it sorted inside 4 weeks and I got mine back in early August with a July expiry. Bastards docked me two months for being prepared.....
So,paid post shop,got photos and took the paperwork to police station on Monday 14th.
Posted paper application for pasport with photos on Wednesday 16th
Friday 18th an email from DIA "your pasport is done our courier company will contact you"
Monday 21st passport delivered and signed for.
Wednesday 23rd get an email from courier post,"your passport will be delivered tomorrow,someone must be home to sign for it".???? Further down the page shows,date, wifes name and signature.:wtfsmilie:
Today had a visit from the fal vetor,tic,tic,tic.security,tic.
Everyone on the ball.
I finally got the visit I was waiting for today as well.
The guy walked into my lounge, looked across at the safe and says words along the lines of " oh yeah, same as the last time I was here" and then leaves
10 seconds at the most
cheers. it has expired. got the nod it was all ok, just need to wait for it to arrive by post to buy ammo or a firearm. didn't think to ask how long it would take...
If anyone is renewing their license it looks to be a 3-4 week wait to your door for the card print run
As a stop gap you can use a mail order form 43A to get guns or ammo provided you have been approved for renewal in the police system
Just had to use my licence the other day first time in ages on a s43 for some ammo, after getting being outraged at the inqusitive what firearms will it be used in question, I saw it expires in 2 months!. No reminder from the police based on the comments above I better get on it today, or I wont be "fit and proper"
Not for renewal but for new people, do not go to VTNZ for the online test and in future do not go to AA either. That really limits the options!
How I know about this is from bitter experience.The Police letter says can't prebook for test but I decided just in case & to possibly save time I'd call VTNZ to check if needed to book in. That was yesterday and they said no need to book. Turned up today, queued 20 mins behind people getting WOFs, driver licenses, etc. Person I see then says "oh I'm not sure", 15mins on phone & then tells me all VTNZ stopped doing the FAL online tests yesterday! Then another 5 mins on phone to tell me AA do the tests. Well doh sherlock, the police letter she had in her hand said that! So I walk 20mins to nearest AA, queue 25mins behind WOF, oil changes, memberships etc before seeing a person who within 30secs checks my ID & has me sitting in front of a PC. Test done & passed :-) Then as she's printing the you've passed form she casually says I'm lucky as AA is stopping doing the FAL tests soon. All up the 10minute test took 2hrs of faffing around and in future there will be bugger all places to do it.
Four weeks from submitting the paperwork. Probably closer to three. The visit from the vettor was arranged inside the week from submitting, and the visit the following week. License arrived around 10 days later. Workmate applied for his , took two weeks for the vettor and 10 WEEKs later he was still awaiting his license....Due to compete (shotgun) in Aussie about a month after that... and was getting very worried.
I am only guessing here, but I reckon it would take a darn sight longer than ten minutes to get a fal in uk these days
The written test is going to be done at the same time as the practical tests with the instructor. Just like it used to be.
I heard it was one of the things Mike MacIlraith changed back to save fucking people around, making them to sit two tests at different times and places.
It only affects new applications, not renewals, so I don't really care much myself as it doesn't affect me.
Not so if this info is correct
Hi Tim --
I’m emailing because I thought you may be interested in learning about the major shake-up the Police have just proposed for firearms administration in New Zealand.
The Police are planning a huge shake-up to the existing system, with hundreds of arms officers and firearms licensing vettors set to lose their jobs.
The Police are proposing:
I’ve received a lot of feedback from people already, and the general view is that there are huge risks in what the Police are proposing. There will be a massive loss of institutional expertise through the disestablishment of arms officers and licensing vetting officers. To make matters worse, only six weeks has been allowed for consultation which is a pitiful amount of time given the large changes proposed. This proposal has come totally out of the blue and has shocked many people.
- All firearms activity and personnel will be managed by, and report to the Arms Act Service Delivery Group;
- That firearms administration tasks will be moved away from districts and towards central management;
- To establish a new national Service Centre, based in Kapiti, to manage end-to-end firearms administration; and
- Disestablishing hundreds of field-based arms officer and firearms licensing vettors; replacing them with a far fewer number of new positions at lower pay-scales.
Started my renewal in a bit of a rush, it expires next month. Took the form to the local station, at the watch house i was "served " by 2 officers before a snr constable appeared. The other 2 after a discussion had told me to go to the postshop as they do drivers and other licenses, no said I and asked if they knew anything about the arms act. The snr sorted it and we had a brief discussion he personally believed the policy of exempting services personnel from requiring an fal could do with some more thought and more training was definitly needed but conceded that cost is king at present.
Also I should have been sent a reminder but that appears not to be happening a lot.
I had to photograph the appln and took his name and warrant no as no acknowledgement of receipt was offered.
Pretty unimpressed to be honest. It will ve interesting to see how long it takes.
Could be better than the service I’m getting at the moment lol not.
Got sent two letters where they get my name wrong in both can’t figure out that I have a shotgun and firearm ticket hence two letters and a waste of paper and postage.
Then also apart from my name being wrong also all other details are wrong. Holding on to that little nugget as they also have other stuf wrong:(
Just for those of you that don’t know this is from the land where all guns are registered.......they just don’t really know who to :wtfsmilie:
I’ve just had a long winded conversation with my arms officer asking to clarify a few things.
Thank god ive kept all receipt and postage records as well as sent emails because the tail seems to be wagging the dog in this county.
Almost exactly 5 weeks to the day I received my renewed license in the mail .
So I cant complain to much , and everyone at the Cop shop who I dealt with were very helpful.