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New to the firearm world, applying for my A Cat, and would go for E cat later on, so thought would be saving time and money to have Cat E safe installed. question is how do you fit safe on a concrete floor? do i need to find a certified tradie for that?
Also on Cat E, AO told me i need to be part of club, target shooting is not sufficient reason to have Cat E, how should i go about this?
10mm dyna bolts into the floor. Drill the holes deep enough so that when time comes to move the safe, you can just hammer the bolts down to flush or below and slide the safe out.
Much easier than trying to move the safe with the bolts sticking up into it.
You can own an e cat without belonging to a club hes making that up unless you said 3 gun. Pest control, hunting and target shooting are all valid reasons for wanting the extra mag capacity and a freestanding pistol grip, which is really what it boils down to
Bit hard claiming target shooting as a reason if you're not a member of a club that does target shooting, that won't wash for 3Gun.
Seeing you've just joined the forum (and I'm a naturally suspicious person) where abouts are you ? Which AO gave you requirements about getting your E ?
Almost!Quote:
Originally Posted by systolic
Fix the E-Cat Safe with at least two 10mm bolts into the concrete floor (Dyna, Chemset etc) and at least two 10mm Coach bolts back into the wall studs behind the safe.
You can do it yourself with a good drill but you will have to get a masonry drill bit to drill the concrete.
Cheers
Pete
4 in the floor, 2 in the wall Pete!Quote:
Originally Posted by P38
Can I ask what reason you gave for your cat E? I'd like to apply for mine but it all looks a little confusingQuote:
Originally Posted by Marty Henry
Cheers Antz
You don't need any reason. You only need to be 'a fit and proper person ', which you already would have been deemed to be if they issue with a firearm licence.Quote:
Originally Posted by moonyading
Ask your AO, where in the Arms Act or Regulations does it say I need a reason?
Kscott, quite observant, i'm very new to the forum, this is my first post, and i'm in the process of getting my A Cat license, trying to get gun safe sorted at the mo, and attending the safety class. i'm in Auckland, so Pest control really a not a good idea, the AO is from Counties Manukau.
As a accountant, trying to work out the cost benefit effect for this job :)
Thanks P38, will get to bunnings see whether i can get it nailed myself.
One thing I had heard about the dyna bolt is some AO's measure the diameter of the bolt , a 10mm dyna bolt has an 8mm(?) bolt. the ones I measured a 12mm dyna bolt has a 10mm bolt.
Waiuku Pistol a Club would be the closest range to join, open Wednesday to Sunday's for members. Applying for a firearms license and going straight for E will be a challenge, despite what the law says, the Police will want a reason why you need high capacity mags, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by moonyading
Safe wise, spend as much as you can, then a bit more. It's a one off purchase and you want good, effective safe storage. As mentioned, bolt to concrete floor or plate under joists, and bolt into wall, unless you can make a very strong room...
Good point mate, i guess i will get the A Cat for now. will do Cat E later on, hopefully the law will not change at the time.
Aiming to fit a Cat E safe, so that won't need to upgrade the storage IF i am going to Cat E.
Thanks for help!
Good luck with him!Quote:
Originally Posted by moonyading
Oh no, sounds creepy....
There are 3 "hims" there. I always found the Manukau guys OK, certainly nothing like some of the postings about other districts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Koshogi
Last time I got a S43A off them I was being driven home from hospital by my wife. She went in as I could barely walk. One of the AOs came out and completed the form on my car bonnet - not bad service.
Use a trubolt not a dynabolt. Just make sure you drill your holes straight as you'll need to fit the safe over the bolts.Quote:
Originally Posted by stug
Sound par for the course!
Well.... this is definitely proved to be a real challenge, never done any of the heavy metal fella before :)
I like your signature lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Maca49
@stugQuote:
Originally Posted by stug
Correct
The BOLT has to be 10mm in diameter, therefor you will need a 12mm Dyna Bolt if you choose this method of fixing.
@moonyading you may also use a concrete bolt that has a diameter of 10mm, these are available at mitre 10 and are easier to install than Dyna bolts.
M10 X 100 316 BI-METAL HWF CONCRETE BOLT | Anzor Stainless Steel Fasteners and Fittings
Cheers
Pete
Do they just screw in Pete?Quote:
Originally Posted by P38
I got my B endorsement signed by an AO at Manukau and she was definitely not a dude and extremely helpful. I guess it helped that I am the stud muffin I am.
@RushyQuote:
Originally Posted by Rushy
Position you safe in its final place, drill the correct size hole with your masonry bit, screw the bolt in with a socket and a strong arm bar.
Jobs done. :)
Cheers
Pete
Cool. I will be doing just that in a couple of weeks. Not this weekend though Pete.Quote:
Originally Posted by P38
I would make sure the AO is ok with concrete screws before you fit them for maximum ass coverage.
The Inspector signed mine off without any issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by AzumitH
Cheers
Pete