Thread: Firearm licencing

In case you missed it, the Royal Commission have slapped a suppression order on some of those people included in evidence.

This included the Waikato father and son who acts as references on tarrants FAL application, the son who he met online, neither of whom met the referee requirements.

So in making the suppression order the RC has effectively confirmed the rumours that the police screwed up big time in processing his FAL application:

Stuff has previously reported that it appeared police failed to properly vet the terrorist when granting him a firearms licence. Sources, who required anonymity to speak, said police relied on character references, a father and son, who met the terrorist through an Internet chatroom.

The commissioners said they were concerned for the wellbeing of both the Waikato father and son and the police staff, noting all had been “subject of considerable media speculation”.

“Publication of their names is not necessary for the public to understand what happened."

Originally Posted by cambo

Police are now also using uniformed officers to do vetting as they can't catch up with the backlog of renewals let alone new applications.
Vettors also been instructed to collect serial numbers

they didnt want mine didnt even want me to open the safe

Originally Posted by Scouser

Dropped my FAL renewal form in today, 3 pieces of ID required (?).....lets see how long it takes????

called the local cop shop to see what time they close (4pm WTF?), the LADY ON THE LINE ASKED FOR MY MY FULL NAME & DATE OF BIRTH?????.....WTF is going on, i only wanted to know when it closed?????

Jesus, which local was this ?

Originally Posted by cambo

Here's the new FAL application and renewal forms.....All 35 of them....

https://www.police.govt.nz/sites/def...ation-form.pdf

Noticed the medical doctor part does not need to be completed if you submit your application prior to 23rd December.

I just downloaded the renewal application form 2 weekss ago, it’s the old 2 pager, is this 35 pager hiding somewhere on Police website just for shits and giggles ?

Originally Posted by Survy

Noticed the medical doctor part does not need to be completed if you submit your application prior to 23rd December.

I just downloaded the renewal application form 2 weekss ago, it’s the old 2 pager, is this 35 pager hiding somewhere on Police website just for shits and giggles ?

No its the only application form that is available now. They will not accept the old 1 page form anymore

Originally Posted by Survy

Jesus, which local was this ?

Otahuhu, south Auckland.....I was received very respectively, no problems

Originally Posted by Ftx325

It needs to be removed from police control and should all be done to the letter of the law ... Not the police version of what they try and pass off as law or there own wishlist.

So long its not an outfit like the AA for car licence, go out of the way to fail people many times over to clip the ticket again charging resitting fees to maximise profit. The vetting people I have had for renewals kind of chat you thru the process, most likely to get "feel" for judgement of your character, not just the correct answers.

Originally Posted by cambo

No its the only application form that is available now. They will not accept the old 1 page form anymore

OMG, go back to the website today and it’s all changed.. at least you can do everything electronically without having to go into a station.

10 months and waiting

You have a good case to complain if your licence lapses due to their processing times... gosh who else waits this long for their day in errr court...

Originally Posted by gsp follower

10 months and waiting

I laid a complaint on their online form and that got some action - given that part of the metric that they publicly point to when they tell their lies about how happy we all are with their crap administration of the FAL system is how many complaints they receive, just think of laying a complaint as having an extra vote

https://complaints.ipca.govt.nz/195

Filling in the form now as mine expires just before the Roar and want to ensure I get the new one in time... might be wishful thinking...
Doctors part says you must provide the exact GP you see - if you don't provide acceptable details it may not be accepted. I hardly ever see the Dr and if I need to I just see whoever has an appointment open... apparently practice name is not acceptable. Rung the doctors practice - they also said they don't have an email address (guess they just don't give one out).
Hope this doesnt see me kicked back.

Originally Posted by Shadowsol

Filling in the form now ..................Doctors part says you must provide the exact GP you see - if you don't provide acceptable details it may not be accepted. .................... Rung the doctors practice - they also said they don't have an email address (guess they just don't give one out).
Hope this doesnt see me kicked back.

@Shadowsol I suspect that Plod wants to be able to force your Doctor into releasing information to him and doesn't have the power to demand it from a Medical Centre / practice.

SO, I suggest you provide the name of the last Doctor you saw at the centre/practice . If you can't remember which one it was, visit the practice / centre with evidence of who you are ( The driver's Licence / FAL shoul do that) and ask for them who you saw at the time of your last visit.
Your Patient History record" will show this and you are entitled to have full access to that record....not that you need it for this..

Originally Posted by Shadowsol

Filling in the form now as mine expires just before the Roar and want to ensure I get the new one in time... might be wishful thinking...
Doctors part says you must provide the exact GP you see - if you don't provide acceptable details it may not be accepted. I hardly ever see the Dr and if I need to I just see whoever has an appointment open... apparently practice name is not acceptable. Rung the doctors practice - they also said they don't have an email address (guess they just don't give one out).
Hope this doesnt see me kicked back.

If you submit it before 23rd Dec, you don’t have to list it. Act comes into place on the 24th.

https://rnzcgp.org.nz/RNZCGP/I_m_a_M...ow_about_.aspx

Originally Posted by Survy

If you submit it before 23rd Dec, you don’t have to list it. Act comes into place on the 24th.

https://rnzcgp.org.nz/RNZCGP/I_m_a_M...ow_about_.aspx

Yeah, let's ignore it and claim that Constable Plod doesn't have the "power" to ask for it.

Then, when Plod sit's on it until the 24 th, he will reject it because of missing information..........and the applicant can complete another application and go to the back of the queue.

It's Such Fun.