Thread: Firearms Registry Consultation Open

I'm wondering why they want the magazine capacity of any fixed mag firearms in the registry.

Originally Posted by Cigar

I'm wondering why they want the magazine capacity of any fixed mag firearms in the registry.

It's getting ready for the next lot of restrictions and confiscation

It's an inventory.

Originally Posted by Bol Tackshin

It's an inventory.

Correction, its a shopping list

Originally Posted by Cyclops

The registry will get hacked - not by incompetence - by deliberate illegal access.

There are about 11-12,000 police staff, sworn and unsworn.
Almost all are reliable trustworthy people.
That leaves a few dodgy ones who can't be trusted.
It will take only one dodgy untrustworthy person the breach the security of the registry. It will happen.

Consider the prosecutions for sworn and unsworn staff access to databases in an improper fashion.

The registry will be the shopping list that gangs will be using.

Don't forget to add in the DoC, MFAT and Customs staff.

Originally Posted by Danger Mouse

It's getting ready for the next lot of restrictions and confiscation

That’s the only reason I’ve come up with too.

Originally Posted by Rushy

I have just completed the on line submission. I added comments and suggestions to every question. In short, I disagreed with everything on the basis that the registry would provide no tangible benefit to Police or the wider society in New Zealand. I suggested that Police should trust fit and proper firearms license holders, their clubs, ranges, executors, administrators and others with powers of attorney over their estates, to act appropriately and in accordance with the law. And Police should redirect their efforts and their budget toward dispossessing gang members, their associates and other non firearms license holders of the firearms that are in their possession.

The underlying tone of my submission was to abandon the registry as it is unnecessarily bureaucratic and will be insecure, will compromise licensed firearms owners, their families and their legitimately held firearms and will ultimately fail and be abandoned.

Regardless, I believe that the registry will go ahead and only time will enable Police to see that I am correct.

I too just completed the survey @Rushy, with similar concerns you mentioned. In the early 70’s I was involved in checking fal details by doing home visits. Bloody waste of time as the ‘register’ then was like a Swiss cheese. I honestly cannot see this proposal being successful.

Originally Posted by muzza

I wonder if there might be some merit in folk posting their responses to the individual sections ,so that others might have some guidance or assistance in making their own responses?

COLFO are currently working on a guide for submissions.

Just done my consultation.
I just can't understand why ammunition is included. I go to the gun club and buy 100 rounds. No internet so all recorded on paper licence seen ect. Then the poor guy/girl that sold me the ammo has to record it on the register when they get home at 9pm (lets say ) My 100 rounds has gone, been used, up in gun smoke. Now old mr plod sees I have purchased 10000 rounds this year, but I have none in my possession. According to our records you purchased 25 rounds of 410 shot gun ammo`yet you do not own a 410. Well I borrowed a 410 and shot a round of skeet. Plod says you borrowed a gun but did not register that that gun was in your possession. Thats because the owner was stood right beside me using my 12 guage. the more you think about all possible scenarios you realize why a register will not work .Just ammo alone probably accounts for thousands of transactions per day. Can this registry cope.

Only 100 rounds in a day? You can't miss much

I reckon that, like in most things, I'll be a late adopter.
Just realised that anyone registering a bolt action Zastava M70 could get a knock on the door as Zastava M70 is also an AK clone.

I find myself pondering more often lately, as to how many of us will merely get rid of our guns. With the onset of age and more limitations imposed on shooters, will the powers that be, accomplish their disarming tactics and or what the percentage of it will be. There are some of us who are approaching the daunting renewal process. Perhaps, as is in my case, my firearms are not monetary worth much and will voluntarily be 'handed in'. Anyone had similar thoughts..?

Originally Posted by outlander

Anyone had similar thoughts..?

No! And nor should you.

Originally Posted by Marty Henry

Only 100 rounds in a day? You can't miss much

Wish it could be more, want to buy a kidney. Yes I do miss a lot.