Thread: Firearms security

Cheers guys, the day has come the vetter will be here soon will keep you updated on how it goes.

How'd you go with the red setter @Kapitishooter ?


Tim

I could well be on my way over there, one little note of concern is that storing bolts separately from the rifle in the instance of bolts that cock on opening means that the firing pin spring is stressed all the time.?? The second note of concern is that by leaving here, I am hoping to leave the high rate of crime behind but could it be that I will leaving the frying pan for the fire? Help me out here guys.

Its pretty safe here on the whole.
Our police don't even carry firearms generally.
Yes we have crime but so does the Vatican.

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Yes we have crime but so does the Vatican.

The watchful eye of the NZHS forum is upon you VC. Vatican is bordering on the religious so please don't Rome into that discussion. We counsel you not to do thatigen. Ha ha ha ha

Originally Posted by Rushy

The watchful eye of the NZHS forum is upon you VC. Vatican is bordering on the religious so please don't Rome into that discussion. We counsel you not to do thatigen. Ha ha ha ha

Which is in and of itself a thinly veiled religious comment Herr @Rushy !!

Very tongue in cheek for a sunday morning




Tim

[QUOTE=Doug; one little note of concern is that storing bolts separately from the rifle in the instance of bolts that cock on opening means that the firing pin spring is stressed all the time.??
Still have not been answered on this one, though scouting around it does appear as though storing bolts separately is not a lawful requirement.

Originally Posted by Doug

one little note of concern is that storing bolts separately from the rifle in the instance of bolts that cock on opening means that the firing pin spring is stressed all the time.??

"THAT" and the fact that I'm one of these people who would travel 3 or 4 hundred miles to get to my hunting ground only to find I've left the bolt behind, and especially when I've got a lever action rifle, semi auto rifle and pump action shotgun right next to my bolt action rifle in the same safe, removing the bolt is kinda "Counter Productive"! (you'll end up being a victim of your own crime prevention with that mentality!)

I mean, if anyone's gonna come into my home, holding a knife to my, or my wife's throat, demanding that I open the safe and give him my rifle... I mean, do ya think I'm gonna hold out on the bolt! And if he's good enough to break into my 'E' CAT safe (which is 6mm thick steel) whilst I'm away at work or on holiday, and get my rifle, do you think he's gonna be unable to break into my small lock-up within that safe (which is approx. 1-2mm thick) and grab the bolt!

All this removing the bolt "Bull S@#T"!.. Our cars are designed to bolt together and get un-bolted! Do we sit in our garage at the end of the day and pull our cars to pieces and hide the bits in strategic locations all over the property, least someone comes and steels it? People do, in fact, I've been guilty of doing simillar myself and I can tell you 'first hand' the utter "GREIF" it causes when you can't find that all important part in time to make that Dr. appointment the following morning, or you've forgotten where you've put this, that and the other!

Do what the hell you want people, you are responsible for your own gun security, but my advise is... Buy yourself the best security you reasonably can and just leave that damn bolt in the rifle where it belongs! (Remember, he who sets a trap, will "himself" fall in it!)

Nice comment Doug, however people over here wouldn't know what "Lock-Time" is, they're only worried about "Lock-Up-Time!" Welcome to New Zealand!

You can decock your bolt out of the rifle easy enough.

Originally Posted by kiwi39

How'd you go with the red setter @Kapitishooter ?


Tim

Good she was great, had no complaints and the security was fine
Even found out the safe where I will store bolts and ammo is at a B cat level.

Good news @kapitihunter not long now and you'll be a member of the club

Best you start preparing your bank account now for a lifetime of abuse

Originally Posted by kiwi39

Best you start preparing your bank account now for a lifetime of abuse

lol ain't THAT the truth !

I have 2 safes, one for rifles (so far) and one for bolts and ammo (so far), really basic safes are not a huge expense. E cat one os going to hurt abit, both pocket and carrying the bugger in.

regards

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Its pretty safe here on the whole.
Our police don't even carry firearms generally.
Yes we have crime but so does the Vatican.

Pretty much :-)

I'm in the US at the moment (Florida) and when asked the moment dangerous thing we had in NZ, all I could come up with was a very annoyed wild pig, and rabbits lol !

Fellow shooter from SA had a 357 on his right hip when driving so he could draw with his left hand. All I could do was buy him a beer.