Thread: Firearms in Vehicles

Originally Posted by Cyclops

From the Arms Code (2013)
https://www.police.govt.nz/sites/def...-code-2013.pdf



That's the official version.
The law is an arse.

How well will it work if you need to go to the bank (or cafe) on your long trip?
You take your firearms soft or hard case with you.
The bank won't let you in.
Nek minute the AOS come racing around the corner .....

A practical, but illegal solution is to always take your bolt(s) with you when you leave the vehicle.
Then, at least, you're leaving an inoperative firearm in the locked vehicle. Cover/hide the firearm too.

Originally Posted by Cordite

Thanks for posting link Cordite. Under offenses 'Carrying or possessing a firearm without a lawful, proper and sufficient purpose' Is hunting organic Broccoli in the supermarket 'proper and sufficient purpose' ? This is written in a way that Police have some discretion. The Police I know would take a dim view of firearms being carried into ordinary shops and not consider the purpose sufficient.
Lets all be sensible and keep our noses clean. Build a lock box for your vehicle

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

Thanks for posting link Cordite. Under offenses 'Carrying or possessing a firearm without a lawful, proper and sufficient purpose' Is hunting organic Broccoli in the supermarket 'proper and sufficient purpose' ? This is written in a way that Police have some discretion. The Police I know would take a dim view of firearms being carried into ordinary shops and not consider the purpose sufficient.
Lets all be sensible and keep our noses clean. Build a lock box for your vehicle

Carrying to avoid breaking the specific law of leaving it in an unattended vehicle must be considered a lawful reason. That is the inference of the specific law.

Originally Posted by gadgetman

Carrying to avoid breaking the specific law of leaving it in an unattended vehicle must be considered a lawful reason. That is the inference of the specific law.

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Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

Well Billy Joe, I have a song for you and Cordite and Kiwi Sapper https://www.google.co.nz/url?sa=t&rc...tr3xT_-g3LdWJV

Since the law is so specific any reasonable person must conclude that taking the firearm with you is the only legal option. Avoiding breaking such a specific law must be considered reasonable reason.

I think the only way to get better laws is for Police to be tied up wasting a lot of time and effort with people obeying stupid laws. Police seem to be driving a lot of law changes nowadays so give them incentive to improve things.

Originally Posted by gadgetman

Since the law is so specific any reasonable person must conclude that taking the firearm with you is the only legal option. Avoiding breaking such a specific law must be considered reasonable reason.

I think the only way to get better laws is for Police to be tied up wasting a lot of time and effort with people obeying stupid laws. Police seem to be driving a lot of law changes nowadays so give them incentive to improve things.

I dont read the law as being 'so specific'. I read 'proper and sufficient purpose' to mean that there is room for the Police to make a call on the situation and decide that there is 'insufficient' purpose. Where is @Sidney to please clear this up ??

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

Lets all be sensible and keep our noses clean. Build a lock box for your vehicle

It's sensible for sure, but not legal.