Thread: Firearms in Vehicles

Originally Posted by gadgetman

According to the Act.



The restrictions imposed by the act do not apply to Police, so what they do does not mean we can also do. If that was the case then why don't you go out and obtain an AR15? See how that goes for you!

According to the Regulations.



Although it is not illegal to have a lock box it is still technically illegal to leave a firearm in a lockbox in an unattended vehicle for us. As has been pointed out to you many times also, the law is the law, the regulations are the law. Discretion would have to take into account actions to avoid breaking the law.

Rather than becoming pedantic about the law which everyone I expect agrees does not make allowance for unexpected situations ( rushed trip to A&E following a hunting accident), some of us are trying to present a practical solution that 1) keeps the firearms safe and 2) does not result in a breach of ' proper and sufficient purpose ' and 3) if the situation were examined by a judge, would be found that all reasonable and practical steps had been taken in the circumstances.
Is it the high protein part of your diet that has changed you from reasonable and mellow to aggressive Gadget ? Get some spuds and Kumera into ya !

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

Rather than becoming pedantic about the law which everyone I expect agrees does not make allowance for unexpected situations ( rushed trip to A&E following a hunting accident), some of us are trying to present a practical solution that 1) keeps the firearms safe and 2) does not result in a breach of ' proper and sufficient purpose ' and 3) if the situation were examined by a judge, would be found that all reasonable and practical steps had been taken in the circumstances.
Is it the high protein part of your diet that has changed you from reasonable and mellow to aggressive Gadget ? Get some spuds and Kumera into ya !

The diet is moderate (normal) in protein, not high.

I'm just laying out the rules of the silly game. The best option is to get a more reasonable law.

The fudge room is in your 'proper and sufficient reason'. The stated laws are fixed. Again, any reasonable person would have to conclude that if it is stated that you cannot leave the firearm in an unattended vehicle that the intention of the law makers was that you must take it with you. Avoiding breaking a very specific law would have to be a proper and sufficient reason.

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

Rather than becoming pedantic about the law which everyone I expect agrees does not make allowance for unexpected situations ( rushed trip to A&E following a hunting accident), some of us are trying to present a practical solution that 1) keeps the firearms safe and 2) does not result in a breach of ' proper and sufficient purpose ' and 3) if the situation were examined by a judge, would be found that all reasonable and practical steps had been taken in the circumstances.
Is it the high protein part of your diet that has changed you from reasonable and mellow to aggressive Gadget ? Get some spuds and Kumera into ya !

in the event of an emergency, it would be reasonable to expect medical treatment to take precedence over the need to secure your firearm against theft from a vehicle,
bleeding to death so you don't leave your gun unattended wouldn't be reasonable so if police did try revoke your license in that sort of circumstance then your lawyer would have pretty solid ground to appeal.