Thread: Fixing a safe to a concrete rib-raft floor

Afternoon all,

I'm looking at moving into a new place and the only suitable place to put the safe has a concrete rib-raft floor. I am pondering the best way to fix the safe to this and was hoping someone on here has either done this or at least knows more about doing it than me. I'm particularly conscious of not wrecking the moisture barrier and opening that whole kettle of worms. Even though it's only for A cat firearms, it's an E cat rated safe so it would be nice if the fixing met the required standard in case I one day decide to get my E. Does anyone have the E cat security standards that police put out?

Any info or experiences would be awesome, cheers

Glue the bastard down with urethane and sell it as prt of the chattels

Yeah the plan is to fix it properly and it can stay there even if/ when I move - also a good excuse to get a new/ bigger safe eventally

Could you drill shallow holes, add pins and cast a concrete plinth for it ~75mm high?

I'm serious, urethane as they use to fix wi screens into cars is bloody amazing! You would have to cut it out

Yeah that could be an option. How deep are your guys anchors in the concrete/ is there a specified depth/ length of bolt?

Originally Posted by Maca49

I'm serious, urethane as they use to fix wi screens into cars is bloody amazing! You would have to cut it out

Lock smith told me to glue mine down with "No More Nails" providing You are never ever moving he said

Gluing a better than screwing!

This may be of some use to you.

https://www.police.govt.nz/sites/def...nts-pol67n.pdf

Scroll down to: STEEL BOXES AND STEEL CABINETS (Regulation 28 (1)(c))

Ok glue it not where dose it say you can't. If you can get a couple of wall fixing as well if your AO can move it then you need to do it again I really doubt that he will get even a wiggle out of it if you have used some good stuff

You gluing if you use chemset bolts, re I think, it ain't a mechanical fixing?

No problem all you need do to still use 12mm bolts is

http://www.ramset.co.nz/Product/Deta...rop-in-Anchors

Drill a 16mm hole only 53mm deep in your ribraft and smash these in. Template the bottom of your safe with cardboard and drill where they are.

Pretty sure your ribraft is 85mm thick to the dpc.

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You got 85mm conc then the pod then DPC Pod will be 220mm or 300 mm. So go for it . Only thing to watch out for is under floor heating ? (do not attempt ) And plumbing ( waste pipes ) but all plumbing should be below 85 mm .

Originally Posted by ubique

Yeah that could be an option. How deep are your guys anchors in the concrete/ is there a specified depth/ length of bolt?

i tried using dyna bolts and AO said no can do, i had to chem set them in, my bolts are 4 X 12mm bolts 80-100mm in the concrete. only need 10mm bolt times two to comply.

dynabolts were OK for mine, 4 x 15mm diameter Internal (inside the safe).

Was some discussion as to whether that was acceptable. They were heading down the "chemset"" path until it was politely pointed out that if the door was already open maybe it would not matter the bolts were chemset (or not).
Signed off real quick after that little Gem