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Are you bored ?
Between your replies in the poaching thread, the "3d printed guns" thread, and now this, I am trying to figure out if you are just plain bored, high on some strange drug, or screwed up enough to only want to stir shit and start "contentious" threads ?
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Clever
I actually agree with the "guns don't kill people" philosophy. They don't. People do. We're all agreeing most (but unfortunately not all) fatalities were avoidable.
Cars, liquor, knives and a host of other 'killers' don't either. The human holding said item does.
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I don't think you've thought this throughQuote:
Originally Posted by ebf
Yes ebf, but listen to gimp......
Utes been at the panel shop and now it's at the garage.
Interesting, what do you suggest I should think about it ?Quote:
Originally Posted by gimp
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Originally Posted by ebf
If someone is posting simply to stir shit, then accusing them of it in such a manner is definitely going to help
at home? Should've said something, I'd have come out for a coffeeQuote:
Originally Posted by Wirehunt
Still here gimp.....
I'm supposed to be off up to Tim's reallll shortly
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Originally Posted by gimp
I mean, I guess you got your answer. "Yes".
Guns dont kill people, jon la joe does.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xC03hmS1Brk
Yea right, we should all just sit back and smile ? Bit too PC for me, I'm afraid :)Quote:
Originally Posted by gimp
I'm probably having a bad hair day, but constant drivel like this just makes firearm owners and enthusiasts look like a bunch of redneck retards. If that is what WH is trying to achieve, he is doing a great job.
Yeah the actual clipping is trite and super lame I'm with you on thatQuote:
Originally Posted by ebf
Toby, I'm never getting those 5 minutes of my life back :D
Interesting point ebf.
Yet we discuss issues like this on NON hunting forum with several million people (not fb) and can get an actual interesting dialogue going with several points of view. Same goes for the 3D printing thread, but then the people I speak with there aren't as close minded and are a little (lot) more tech minded, as some are around here. Go figure.
Do anti gun people really think crime would even romotely decrease if all guns everywhere were banned? people have been killing each other for hundreds of thousands of years and I'm sure if you go through time they take up a very small percentage of human on human fatalities.
People will kill people whether they're using a semi auto 223, a tea spoon, a sharpened tooth brush or just their bare hands nothing can change that.
You don't need to convince usQuote:
Originally Posted by Bavarian_Hunter
This clipping is just a bad joke of a strawman argument though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wirehunt
For my two cents worth (bloody inflation it used to be a penny's worth back in the day) the title of this thread is an absolute truth.
Let's discus this topic at a bar around the weeknd of the sika show rushy be far interestingQuote:
Originally Posted by Rushy
It's the nut behind the butt.
I leave my firearms in a steel box. A form of solitary confinement in the hope that when they come out, they will kill the first deer they see
Rushy - how was your Kaimais hunt?
Pls point me at this forum with several million users where the actual interesting dialogue is going on :ORLY:Quote:
Originally Posted by Wirehunt
I am absolutely looking forward to that Neckshot, even if it is a long way off yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Neckshot
It was Minginui but to answer it was an absolute fucking fizzer as they were not roaring. I will be going back down two weekends from now.Quote:
Originally Posted by sako75
Preaching to the converted BH :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Bavarian_Hunter
The argument is way too one dimensional though...
On the flip side you can't argue that a semi auto rifle is not a more effective weapon than a baseball bat. Some of the gun nut fraternity love hauling out the tired old argument that vehicles kill more people envy year. Same argument applies, it is the nut behind the steering wheel.
And last time I checked, soldiers all over the were still being issued with semi auto rifles with high cap mags (not baseball bats or vw beetles), quite simply because it is the most effective individual weapon system the human race has come up with so far... Which would you rather face, a nutcase armed with a flintlock or a nutcase armed with an AR and a couple of high cap mags ?
Base ball bat could probably be just as lethal if you are on the receiving end of it and have nothing to defend yourself with
technically it is the impact of the bullet that does the killing, not the gun. :P
Yup, you're absolutely correct. As could a screwdriver, brick, spade, and just about anything else...Quote:
Originally Posted by Beavis
But that is not really the point is it ?
Guns don't kill people, bullets do.
Bullets don't kill people, the injuries they cause do.
I like the quote out of 'Collateral'. "you killed him", "No, I shot him, bullets and the fall killed him."
Baseball bat doesn't have a effective range of 200m.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beavis
I'm lost, I don't even know what the point is.Quote:
Originally Posted by ebf
I wouldn't have thoughtQuote:
Originally Posted by Savage1
To be fair, it is pitched at roughly the same level of sophistication as the opposing view though.... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by gimp
I've also got a decent chance of out running you with a bat, I sure can't run faster than the bullet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Savage1
hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by Savage1
Not being in that mind set but I guess I'd assume that some ppl would enjoy using the baseball bat far more...due to feel and uh prolonged sound effects. So I dont know which one I'd fear more but at least with a gun it should be pretty quick.Quote:
Originally Posted by ebf
"Do anti gun people really think crime would even romotely decrease if all guns everywhere were banned?" Yes I think they do, but really you are talking of lilly liberals, even jumping out of planes for sport or fun should also be banned....or anything remotely FUN.
Their mind set is quite simple IMHO, they think of themselves as superior and of good taste and therefore deserve to be in charge looking after the rest of us for our own good as we are really naughty children who'd get into trouble or injury ourselves. The fact the rest of us would be so bored with a life in cotton wool that we'd queue to jump under the nearest train is neither here nor there. We'd have to be quick as trains would get banned of course.
About as relevant as any other dribble on this thread, just more classic
Bob Dylan - Who killed Davey Moore? - YouTube
