Guns Stolen From Unattended Vehicle in Matamata

Cut and pasted from a facebook post emailed to me:

https://www.facebook.com/taupoclayta...location=group

Taupo Clay Target Club
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A serious situation at Matamata Gun Club today. While we were all in prize giving someone entered the club grounds and stole guns and ammunition from a vehicle. No one saw these brazen thieves. Or maybe someone did but didn’t realize what was happening. No one knows every vehicle entering and leaving club grounds.
This is a reminder for all Taupo Clay Target Club members that it’s your responsibility to keep your firearm and ammunition stored appropriately at the club. We have advised members before and put a sign up sometime ago to keep your vehicle locked at all times.

Someone called Douglas put this helpful, encouraging comment on the facebook page concerned:
Douglas McHardy: why were they left unattended in a vehicle in the first place?
part 19 (2) (c) of the Arms regulations 1992 is quite specific on the subject
(c) ensuring that no firearm in the holder’s possession is left in a vehicle that is unattended.
http://www.legislation.govt.nz/.../l...DLM169122.html...
etc. etc.

Letter of law, yes, but others think a certain person was retarded because he brought a rifle with him to a toilet precisely to avoid leaving it unattended in his vehicle.

Anyway, I don't think NZP would consider the vehicles concerned unattended in the spirit of the law.

At least the vehicle should of been locked.

It is amazing how many people where I live leave their cars unlocked with wallets cell phones laptops and other valuables inside
just about every day there is one or more people posting on the town FB page that they have had stuff taken from their cars
they also complain about scumbags walking into their homes and nicking stuff none of them take security seriously
My car has the alarm on all the time I am not in it, If you don't get into the habit of locking your car when you leave it
you may not do it when there are guns in it.

Durp.

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Originally Posted by shooternz

It is amazing how many people where I live leave their cars unlocked with wallets cell phones laptops and other valuables inside
just about every day there is one or more people posting on the town FB page that they have had stuff taken from their cars
they also complain about scumbags walking into their homes and nicking stuff none of them take security seriously
My car has the alarm on all the time I am not in it, If you don't get into the habit of locking your car when you leave it
you may not do it when there are guns in it.

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" My car got broken into overnight in Tuakau on the side of the road, 2 x laptops, all my cameras, etc etc, all gone"....... Yeah, that was going to happen.

Really what Fn idiot leaves guns an ammo in a vehicle at a gun club unattended? shit we all know that any vehicle out side inside or at a gun club is considered a potential target
so what do the crims in Taupo have now in their possession?

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Originally Posted by Cordite

Someone called Douglas put this helpful, encouraging comment on the facebook page concerned:
Douglas McHardy: why were they left unattended in a vehicle in the first place?
part 19 (2) (c) of the Arms regulations 1992 is quite specific on the subject
(c) ensuring that no firearm in the holder’s possession is left in a vehicle that is unattended.
http://www.legislation.govt.nz/.../l...DLM169122.html...
etc. etc.

Letter of law, yes, but others think a certain person was retarded because he brought a rifle with him to a toilet precisely to avoid leaving it unattended in his vehicle.

Anyway, I don't think NZP would consider the vehicles concerned unattended in the spirit of the law.

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I think the issue for a lot of people is he either didn't put it in his gun bag and put it on his shoulder or think ahead to have a gun bag around. It was an A Cat H&K SL8 from what I understand.

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Originally Posted by Square22

I think the issue for a lot of people is he either didn't put it in his gun bag and put it on his shoulder or think ahead to have a gun bag around. It was an A Cat H&K SL8 from what I understand.

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An SL8?? Definitely don't take an SL8 to the toilet!

Agree with @shooternz about people who don't lock their houses and cars as a matter of good habit and routine. Pain is coming.

Well I just know this will never happen to me.

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Originally Posted by 40mm

Well I just know this will never happen to me.

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Famous last words.

Although your drive, let alone that dopey dog of yours would discourage the criminals lol.

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Originally Posted by Russian 22.

Famous last words.

Although your drive, let alone that dopey dog of yours would discourage the criminals lol.

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I dont mean Ill never be ripped off... just that my guns will never be taken from my vehicle!

Could have been anyone who would have taken it... even another participant at the shoot!

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Originally Posted by Seventenths

Could have been anyone who would have taken it... even another participant at the shoot!

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Well, they'd not have dressed up as a rapper, no?

That in itself is so fucking bullshit....sorry mate...it guts me that people “of like”would have the audacity to that..nieve,NO!....gutted!!

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Originally Posted by Seventenths

Could have been anyone who would have taken it... even another participant at the shoot!

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Originally Posted by A330driver

That in itself is so fucking bullshit....sorry mate...it guts me that people “of like”would have the audacity to that..nieve,NO!....gutted!!

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Nothing is safe anywhere ever now a days, A locked vehicle can have its contents stolen in 10 seconds, So to leave a gun in one is just dumb

Ugly

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Originally Posted by Seventenths

Could have been anyone who would have taken it... even another participant at the shoot!

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I'm surprised some mental hasn't yet publicly claimed that it was a false flag operation by the cops to make gun owners look bad.

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Originally Posted by systolic

I'm surprised some mental hasn't yet publicly claimed that it was a false flag operation by the cops to make gun owners look bad.

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Russian interference all day long.

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Originally Posted by Tommy

Russian interference all day long.

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Yup = Putin would have done it

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Originally Posted by Cordite

An SL8?? Definitely don't take an SL8 to the toilet!

Agree with @shooternz about people who don't lock their houses and cars as a matter of good habit and routine. Pain is coming.

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Originally Posted by 40mm

Well I just know this will never happen to me.

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Don’t have a car huh?

We have a member here who once told me he had a firearm nicked from a locked car that was parked outside a cop shop. Shit can happen

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Originally Posted by Rushy

Don’t have a car huh?

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I just dont leave the guns in the car, they go where I go.

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Originally Posted by Tommy

Russian interference all day long.

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Shhhhhhhh

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Originally Posted by A330driver

That in itself is so fucking bullshit....sorry mate...it guts me that people “of like”would have the audacity to that..nieve,NO!....gutted!!

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Why do you think that isn't a possibility?

I'm not saying that happened as it could have been someone walking in off the road but i always like to keep an open mind especially with very little information that's been presented.

Temptation is the mother of all evil's... that's why i don't like to leave things in plain view when leaving my car locked. 70% of thefts are through opportunity... ie unlocked vehicle with gun possibly in plain sight. Had the vehicle been locked and gun not in plain site (not saying it was) then you only have to worry about the 30% who are determined to get in and take the valuables that are in plain view.

Quote”Why do you think that isn't a possibility?”

Where in my statement do I say that it wasn’t a possibility???

Your initial response is hard to figure out... are you taking aim at my post or the guy who had his firearm stolen or both?

Yep, I'm making the rounds of military and trap shoots...doing a mean trade in pistol grip skeet guns with 10inch barrels

Really???..... not worth pursuing

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Originally Posted by Seventenths

Your initial response is hard to figure out... are you taking aim at my post or the guy who had his firearm stolen or both?

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Judging by the number of shot up road signs, poaching and the like, assuming that all FALs are good sorts and wouldn't steal given the opportunity is sadly not reality these days.
What's happened is a reminder for us all, whether the club rooms and gun range is close to, or a long way from the road and general public access.