Thread: HDPA does indeed lie about firearms

Originally Posted by systolic

How many cops in NZ have had their guns taken off them now?

(Not counting that guy at Aramoana who was already dead when his pistol was taken.)

Who got shot when the situation "could have been de-escalated without violence"?

How many cops have had a gun holstered on them for every job they attend?
How many times have they had a scuffle with someone whilst they had a gun holstered?

All you're saying is that the current system works.

Originally Posted by systolic

What has a homicide rate got to do with cops wanting or needing guns?

None of the cops in Whangarei who got shot at a few weeks ago were killed so, because there was no homicide, they didn't need to be armed?
Gunman still on the run after firing shot at police, stealing police car in Northland | Stuff.co.nz

The cops in New Plymouth had to run back to their squad car to get guns after they were shot at in 2013.
https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/...tim-broken-man

In 2015 two cops in Waikato got shot at with a shotgun while in hot pursuit of a car. But they didn’t die so that’s all right then. I don’t know what the fuss is about.
https://www.policeassn.org.nz/newsro...s-october-2015

This cop was shot three times, but is still alive so he obviously had no use for a gun.
Charges laid following policeman's shooting | Stuff.co.nz

No shots fired here, so clearly no need for guns?
Man on the run after pointing gun at police in Manurewa - National - NZ Herald News

If the number of people killed by falling pine trees was getting less, but the number of forestry workers getting injured by trees was getting more, does that mean the problem is getting better or worse?

Edited to add that cop in Turangi who might not have been cut up with a machete after stopping a car and being attacked if he had a gun on his hip.

I think you will find that your buddy O'Connor said this, so why are you asking me?
Remember he speaks on behalf of all the police officers you have talked about in your post, they voted for him.