Welcome guest, is this your first visit? Create Account now to join.
  • Login:

Welcome to the NZ Hunting and Shooting Forums.

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed.

Terminator Ammo Direct


User Tag List

+ Reply to Thread
Results 1 to 10 of 10
Like Tree1Likes
  • 1 Post By Ryan

Thread: Herald Article - Coroner Urges Safety

  1. #1
    OPCz Rushy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2012
    Location
    Nor West of Auckland on the true right of the Kaipara River
    Posts
    34,207

    Herald Article - Coroner Urges Safety

    A man shot dead while hunting would likely still be alive if a coroner's recommendations in a previous shooting death had been followed, an inquest has found. James Dodds was shot by his hunting companion in the Waikite Valley near Rotorua last September.

    Coroner Wallace Bain said the tragic death may have been avoided if recommendations from inquests into previous hunting deaths had been followed. Mr Dodds was shot dead by Henry Worsp after he was mistaken by his friend for a deer.

    In January Worsp, 37, was sentenced to six months' home detention and 250 hours' community work after pleading guilty to careless use of a firearm.

    As part of the inquest into Mr Dodds' death, Dr Bain made a number of recommendations to the Law Commission and the Government. These included reviewing the charges available to authorities in hunting accidents and educating hunters about identifying targets, high visibility clothing and sensor products to stop them shooting companions.

    He also recommended amending the New Zealand Firearms Safety Code to include experts views and a plea from Mr Dodds' partner Gabrielle Molloy "that hunting companions cease to hunt once separated and not resume until full visual contact is confirmed", said the Coroner's finding.

    If his earlier recommendations into hunting deaths had been followed Mr Dodds would probably still be alive, said Dr Bain. "The findings tragically highlight in paragraph 44 that if the recommendations in the Gillies inquest had been actioned then it is likely Mr Dodds would still be alive today," he said.
    He referred to the cases of William Gillies in 2007 and Rosemary Ives in 2010, and noted his recommendations following their inquests, which included identifying targets.

    Rosemary Ives, 25, was fatally shot by Andrew Mears while camping with her partner in Kaimanawa Forest Park near Turangi in 2010. Mears was "spotlighting" with a group of friends when he mistook Ms Ives' head-lamp for deer eyes as she was brushing her teeth.

    Three years earlier Michael Lee fatally shot his friend William Gillies after mistaking him for a deer while hunting in the Pureora Forest. At an inquest into Mr Gillies' death Dr Bain recommended that "careful consideration be given to making offences in hunting situations, ones of strict liability so that the hunters have to establish that they have complied to the appropriate standards required with the Arms Act and the Arms Code".
    It takes 43 muscle's to frown and 17 to smile, but only 3 for proper trigger pull.
    What more do we need? If we are above ground and breathing the rest is up to us!
    Rule 1: Treat every firearm as loaded
    Rule 2: Always point firearms in a safe direction
    Rule 3: Load a firearm only when ready to fire
    Rule 4: Identify your target beyond all doubt
    Rule 5: Check your firing zone
    Rule 6: Store firearms and ammunition safely
    Rule 7: Avoid alcohol and drugs when handling firearms

  2. #2
    Gone But Not Forgotten Toby's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    Wouldn't you like to know
    Posts
    11,099
    Quote Originally Posted by Rushy View Post
    He also recommended amending the New Zealand Firearms Safety Code to include experts views and a plea from Mr Dodds' partner Gabrielle Molloy "that hunting companions cease to hunt once separated and not resume until full visual contact is confirmed", said the Coroner's finding.

    That's may well stop shooting mates but what about other hunters in the area?
    VIVA LA HOWA

  3. #3
    Member gadgetman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Christchurch
    Posts
    17,979
    "careful consideration be given to making offences in hunting situations, ones of strict liability so that the hunters have to establish that they have complied to the appropriate standards required with the Arms Act and the Arms Code".
    So you have to stop whenever you see a likely animal. Bring out your pen and paper and fill in a risk management form or six , cross reference the acts and arms codes, get out the gps, and fill in date, location and sign, then get it witnessed, ....

    Is it just me or does the above recommendation not look rather vague? In a situation where you are assumed to be alone how is one meant to establish that they have complied? Good grief, it's not hard to see how the legal profession perpetuate their own existence.
    There are only three types of people in this world. Those that can count, and those that can't!

  4. #4
    Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Auckland
    Posts
    1,766
    Quote Originally Posted by Toby View Post
    That's may well stop shooting mates but what about other hunters in the area?
    It's a start though. Problem will be there's no perfect solution despite that people want perfect solutions.

  5. #5
    Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    N/A
    Posts
    7,631
    Quote Originally Posted by NZ Herald View Post
    A man shot dead while hunting would likely still be alive if a coroner's recommendations in a previous shooting death had been followed, an inquest has found.
    Surely if the shooter had used common sense, he'd also still be alive? Common sense is seemingly increasingly uncommon these days.

    Quote Originally Posted by NZ Herald View Post
    In January Worsp, 37, was sentenced to six months' home detention and 250 hours' community work after pleading guilty to careless use of a firearm.
    Is that all?

  6. #6
    Member gadgetman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Christchurch
    Posts
    17,979
    Agree wholeheartedly Ryan.
    There are only three types of people in this world. Those that can count, and those that can't!

  7. #7
    Almost literate. veitnamcam's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Nelson
    Posts
    24,960
    As me old mate Albert said
    the trouble with common sense is its not that common .

    Sent from my GT-S5360T using Tapatalk 2
    "Hunting and fishing" fucking over licenced firearms owners since ages ago.

    308Win One chambering to rule them all.

  8. #8
    dog chaser distant stalker's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Chch
    Posts
    2,013
    Quote Originally Posted by Toby View Post
    That's may well stop shooting mates but what about other hunters in the area?
    Most accidents involve people from same party

  9. #9
    Gone But Not Forgotten Toby's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    Wouldn't you like to know
    Posts
    11,099
    I guess you have to make a decent plan and stick to it if you leave each other then. Me and my mate split up go in complete different directions and wouldn't want a law to stop us doing so.
    VIVA LA HOWA

  10. #10
    Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    N/A
    Posts
    7,631
    Radios are also pretty useful for maintaining contact over distances.
    Kscott likes this.

 

 

Similar Threads

  1. Man dies Hunting in Fiordland - NZ Herald
    By Rushy in forum Hunting
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 19-01-2013, 05:51 PM
  2. Safety Colours
    By Dougie in forum Firearm Safety
    Replies: 67
    Last Post: 19-09-2012, 07:23 AM
  3. Replies: 2
    Last Post: 25-07-2012, 09:16 PM

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
Welcome to NZ Hunting and Shooting Forums! We see you're new here, or arn't logged in. Create an account, and Login for full access including our FREE BUY and SELL section Register NOW!!