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just looking on F/B-apparently the boys in blue raided 3x new lynn properties in auckland.licensed FAL but lots of "illegal"(per buyup) weapons 35 in total seized plus 15,000,000 rounds ammo and some other illicits .FAL revoked .cops any one offending like this we will take a tough stance -pity same couldnt be said for gangs.
guess its a wait and see outcome.
15 k rounds? not 15 million?
mind boggling what the hell how did this slip under the radar -Quote:
Originally Posted by kotuku
Every article about the police these days ends in the police are committed to holding people to account, shouldn't even be needed to be said should it?? thought it would be a given...
Looking at the picture briefly, I see mostly pump actions, bolt actions and break opens with a few rimfire looking semi auto in the front. There are a few I cannot identify which may be MSSA but nothing stands out to ome. The pistols could be an issue if they aren't airguns or ornamental...
And 15,000 rounds is not that much if he owned all of those- 3 or 4 slabs of shotgun 6-8 bricks of 22LR when its on special and there is 5000 just like that...
There is a higher resolution image on the police website for gun spotters:thumbsup:
Pure speculation but there seems to be a few prohibited firearms (former A Cat semis which were never required to be registered), AR15 varients, L1A1, Beretta CX4, AK with thumbhole stocks. Also a few semi auto shotguns with mag extensions.
Interesting there are also former E cats rifles which should have been registered under the old system, including a couple of AR's, a G3 (unless c cat) and a LMT.
Most likey also had prohibited magazines.
The MP5 looks like an airsoft with a gas fitting in the pistol grip.
Bit of money there though, namely the Steyr HS50 with S&B scope.
whoops ,my error -thanks for spotting it and remedy .eyes aint what they used to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by ilikepie
An example of a FAL holder supplying gangs?
More likely someone who had naughty items who shouldn't have had them.Quote:
Originally Posted by MB
So, in conclusion, does this mean the new Firearms Registry system is working? Or is not working?
Im sure he was going to register come closer to the time:)
Have they proven that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nickoli
Wrong replyQuote:
Originally Posted by blip
Have they proven that?Quote:
Originally Posted by MB
No, it's a question and not unlikely.Quote:
Originally Posted by blip
YesQuote:
Originally Posted by blip
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Most of those might belong to a dealer or someone in the firearms industry at least going by the assortment, not much of a collection / collectors sort of interest by the looks of it all odds and sods of all sorts
There is a lot to unpack here
As he was a FAL holder then that suggests someone who ignored the confiscation demands.
So that is either an exception and the confiscations were a success and have made us safer
or
An example of civil disobedience to the confiscation demands. If that is widespread disobedience it is something the police won't want to advertise as it would indicate a failure of the whole idea.
It's been said for a long time, the numbers declared as confiscated/destroyed don't seem to stack up. If you look solely at SKS types, we imported them into NZ for near on 65 years give or take. Multiple shipments from multiple countries of manufacture, yet if I recall the numbers correctly from the forms (can't be arsed looking them up) the totals declared for SKS were 5,000 give or take. Customs docs should show what's been imported and somewhere there should be dealer's import permits as well.
The numbers for imports should be able to be researched and cross checked, but from what I saw requests seem to get rebuffed as not held in one place??? I recall being at an old outfit in Auckland now sadly closed down when they opened a container full of import SKS plus accessories, I dunno what a can holds but I'd suggest that one lot would be a fair percentage of the total declared.
It's a funny thing, if it's required for community safety and the way it is done is fair and equitable I have no problem with the concept of surrendering semi's - but the way this outfit went about it was a clusterfluck plain and simple. Removing semi's held by responsible licenced people that were never a problem while ending up in the situation we are in now with an unknown but arguably significant number held unlawfully (who knows where) plainly did nothing to improve public safety. What should have happened was transitioning all semi-auto firearms to an E-cat system and a grandfather clause - if you didn't want to increase security and vett to the higher level sell or surrender. I suspect there would not have been the issues and the support would have been a lot higher for that approach than what we got.
Sorry @No.3 but that statement shows far to much common sense and logic....:DQuote:
Originally Posted by No.3
And I suspect that this is probably what every semi auto owner was expecting to happen.....but as we know- those in charge at the time displayed a complete lack of both common sense and logic....
I know the SKS was a popular rifle that could be purchased cheaply on A cat and surrendered to get a 'real' E cat gun. Or at least I was under them impression that they were...that could account for some of the 'missing ones'...but you are right- there were so many bought in. Nearly everyne I know with a license had one at one point....
Hi The boys in Blue found this in a raid does it classify as a Baba job
Attachment 239885
"Hey Buba, did you faceplant into an axe???"
"No, let me tell you about this pistol I made......"
Good job. I for one am pleased to see that lot out of circulation. The only redeeming feature is that the owner hadn't stooped to having Bahco knives as well.
Hadn’t initiated a trigger event yet !Quote:
Originally Posted by blip
What's wrong with a bahco knife?
Is that an old 303,going by the mag design.?Quote:
Originally Posted by AR7
Yep.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trout
Reliable, effective, good design, cheap and decent steel. Totally unfashionable and not very cool hahaQuote:
Originally Posted by Brad S
They are a crime against fashion. Think crocs and mullets.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brad S
I went to 4 confiscation events be lucky if I saw 30 skss
That be a good wrist breaker.:wtfsmilie:Quote:
Originally Posted by No.3
Hoi! Some of us were born with mullets - the croc comment I agree with!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
I own multiple pairs of crocs and use bahco knives
Thank you for your feedback
Ha, gold!
Yeah, I had a quick look in the back of a truck doing the collections. Lots of crappy old gear getting big $$$$ back courtesy the taxpayer, a few Chinese sourced AR's and the like but didn't appear to be much in the way of interesting in the pile. I wasn't allowed to look too closely - spoilsports! I was chuckling as they were using an "urban camo" series truck, rent a wreck basically so it fully blended in.Quote:
Originally Posted by blip
A flame throwing wrist breaker, YesQuote:
Originally Posted by Trout
U need the mullet @BRADS
Arghh this has just stirred up memories of my persecution for being a law abiding fit and proper person who acts with honesty and integrity. I gave up my E Cat firearms as many of us did knowing all the while that pricks like this would not. It still angers me to think about the inequity.
And the guy in the op is just one of many...
