To be Honest when i taught Leslie to drive the truck i didnt think he would grasp it so quick. now he wants to drive to the shed Bloody hell what have i started LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Rushy
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To be Honest when i taught Leslie to drive the truck i didnt think he would grasp it so quick. now he wants to drive to the shed Bloody hell what have i started LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Rushy
Something good that he will probably start himself with your grand kidsQuote:
Originally Posted by mucko
That sound means many things, but none of them are good!Quote:
Originally Posted by POME
You need to come along when I'm RO :thumbsup: Don't give a shit about the age or reputation of the shooter, it's follow the rules or go shoot somewhere else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
Back on topic, as an experience starting shooting at an early age is good. The guidance they'll get from you in regards to handling, safety, etc will go with them for life, so they'll follow just what you do.
As suggested, starting off with an air rifle is good - cheap to shoot, single shot, and buying a kids sized gun is easy.
This whole thread is based on a floored assumption. That assumption being that all parents who hold a firearms license are rational and sensible human beings, and that all children can reason, and act on instructions.
Because of this, there can be no "standard" for when and how children are introduced to firearms. Clearly, for some the answer should be never.
Sadly, the dilemma is that those who shouldn't be teaching their kids this stuff, or parents who's kids just aren't ready for it, probably lack the self awareness to know not to.
That's why I'm so cautious about generalized advice on this topic.
Agreed. In saying that, I should think about getting someone else to give THAT talk you are supposed to have with your kids around 11 or 12. Coz I have no friggin idea and am the last person that should talk to them about it:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
Is that the talk that discusses the differences between an aviary and an apiary? :P
Ummmm....thats a flawed assumption, not a floored assumption.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahr
Damn and here I was thinking that someone had knocked the assumption out.
bring back the pus bucket air rifles that can barely put a hole in a aluminium can. The one I grew up using (under supervision) was like tits on a bull but I loved it, then I moved onto my dads Diana mod 45 which is almost as deadly as a .22, still got it.
Both my kids started coming out on trips at around 4yrs. I remember my daughter's first time spot lighting possums, the last one for the night was a hang up. anyway she had just started school, on monday at school she drew a very detailed picture (She loves art) with the possum stuck in the tree and me bellow it holding a gun. Then got the teacher to write "My Dad shot a possum. The blood went tap tap tap on the ground"
3 year old learning to shoot - YouTube
You can make your own caption for this clip???
Wow!Quote:
Originally Posted by big_foot
"ok look where your shooting" what a fuckin joke aye.
Clearly no foundation of safe firearm use installed before handing the poor kid a gun.
That kid had no interest
A couple of things from me ... you will know when ...
Like Rushy said - make if fun. With my son I wanted him to see the damage that even the .22lr could cause. I wanted him to appreciate the danger involved in shooting. We shot all sorts of things, fruit, veges, cans of VB, water melons, all sorts of stuff ... after the hooting, he pretty quickly realised the dangers to shooting the message sunk in. Then we did it with a shotgun ... OMG he got it.
As he got a little older he became more confident and as boys sometimes do - they stop listening to their dads. I sent him off with a friend for a rabbit shoot and he drilled him nicely in safety and rules and general stuff. I returned the favour and took his boy. NZDA hunt program's would also help as would gun clubs with their etiquette & rules. ATB ... Gunzrrr
Great discussion here, I really like Tahr's comments. It really is up to the individual. I do think we need to remember that age might not mean maturity, even further down the end of the scale...I certainly have ticked a few people as "never go shooting with this person again" and they weren't four years old.
Something i have seen over the years is fathers wanting there kids to hunt, more so than the kids wanting to hunt, so i dont push it at all, i only take mine out when they ask
The teenagers get there pig fix now and then but would much rather go fishing
The 2 younger ones, its an adventure more than a hunt, we have food,drinks and a cup of tea and most importantly mummy comes too, we play with sticks and stones, look at birds and trees and if the dogs find a pig i deal with that and mum and kids keep on playing
Its never been about the guns or shooting, just an outing/adventure
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Not sure what happened there, someone please delete a photo
Nah they both good:thumbsup:
Shot bro. I take my young kids "hunting" don't take a rifle usually.Quote:
Originally Posted by moonhunt
We get into the outdoors look at trees creeks prints and poos play in mud and water cook some noodles and talk a lot. Well my girl never stops talking.
Also take them up the range occasionally and they use the 22 and 223
Been doing this since they were 5 and 4 years old.
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And all the while they are having quality time with dad and learning lessons that they are not likely to ever learn at school
Personally, based on my own experience being introduced to guns and hunting as a kid, I'd say earlier than 8yo is potentially great, but perhaps only on air guns. One of the things I learned about young using air guns, was ricochet, as pellets would occasionally bounce back from tin cans etc and hit us! Obviously, this taught me about the safety aspect of checking firing zone and my father also made it clear that gunpowder cartridges were far more dangerous and wouldn't be forgiving if the projectile ricocheted back or hit anyone or anything else. Once we started shooting rabbits with .22 at about 8yo, I quickly developed a healthy understanding of "one shot kill" importance and aiming to achieve a quick, humane death. He bought me a BSA single shot .22 for my 9th birthday and I was absolutely hooked on guns and hunting from that point on. He encouraged me to strip and rebuild the BSA, bluing the barrel and oiling the stock, which taught me about the engineering and also the pride of ownership. Shooting a SMLE .303 was my next graduation and again, a very healthy respect was learned for the immense power I held in my hands (I'm not sure a smaller cartridge with less recoil would have taught me quite the same respect??) and pointing it in a safe direction at all times, as if it was permanently loaded.
However, in my early teens, I became quite irresponsible with our firearms and did some really dumb things I regret and in hindsight, my father was quite stupid to allow me to know how to get access to our firearms at such a young age. It was only luck no serious harm was caused by dumb-arse teenage boys. So, as long as adult firearm owners are giving immediate supervision to kids, I see no harm and only benefits from introducing them at any age over 5yo.
As long as you're realistic about the outcome, then start them as early as you want. I made my oldest girls a little .22lr, but it is very low key stuff - just 3 or 4 shots and then it goes back in the safe before she gets too bored.
http://i964.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps14abf97c.jpg
Video of .22lr V's 2L Coke bottle full of water
Sorry its upside down - can't work out how to fix it, but you get the idea. That's about all I can realistically expect from her at that age.
kj
Mine have come out since they wanted to, including the wee tart when she was really wee, stopping half way up a hill wanting to have a sleep....
The boy kills shit, he also has a great respect for what a gun can do. Simple reason is he shoots rabbits with the 223. It opens their eyes.
By the way, I trust him one hell of a lot more than a lot of other clowns (read adults) I've been out with.
