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    What about intent ? If the rugby players succeeded with their intention someone gets hurt, if the hunter succeeded in his he would have shot a deer.
    Did the victims of the rugby players assaults ask for a discharge as the hunters victim did?
    Is showing up and coming rugby players that they maybe insulated from the law because of the sport they play a good example to be setting?
    Just a slopy retrobate

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    Quote Originally Posted by sneeze View Post
    What about intent ? If the rugby players succeeded with their intention someone gets hurt, if the hunter succeeded in his he would have shot a deer.
    Did the victims of the rugby players assaults ask for a discharge as the hunters victim did?
    Is showing up and coming rugby players that they maybe insulated from the law because of the sport they play a good example to be setting?
    Nobody is insulated from the law when you have gone to trial. What are you talking about? Justice is the process of accountability not the outcome of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidney View Post
    Nobody is insulated from the law when you have gone to trial. What are you talking about? Justice is the process of accountability not the outcome of it.
    Im sure you know what Im talking about but Ill redefine and replace "insulated from the law" with "insulated from conviction"
    Just a slopy retrobate

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    Quote Originally Posted by sneeze View Post
    Im sure you know what Im talking about but Ill redefine and replace "insulated from the law" with "insulated from conviction"
    OK - how could you possibly assume outcome before the event? Insulated? There has to be reason to escape conviction - do you think standing in the dock they feel insulated? Find me a statistical breakdown of repeat offenders who have been given a chance compared to those convicted in the first place. Pretty dam low I would think.

    Establish the problem... because printing a list of rugby player who received that second chance is pure distortion isn't it? What about the numbers of gen pop people who also have that opportunity? Uni students, first time offenders, young offenders, out of character incidents, otherwise contributing members of society etc..

    This is emotive crap couched in a misunderstood emotional appeal to equity, without considering the bigger issues.
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    Plenty get given a chance and go on to re offend don't have the stats but I can tell you know there's plenty that have been given the chance and go on to have illustrious criminal careers, only gotta look at the ever increasing prison population to know that.
    But hey you know best...... And let's face it no matter what is said your gonna shit all over the chess board and strut around like your right anyway

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidney View Post

    This is emotive crap couched in a misunderstood emotional appeal to equity, without considering the bigger issues.
    Huh!! I thought I was asking a couple of questions and it turns out I was emotionally, and with no regard for the bigger issues, appealing for equity.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sidney View Post

    What about the numbers of gen pop people who also have that opportunity? Uni students, first time offenders, young offenders, out of character incidents, otherwise contributing members of society etc..

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    And hunters with a promising career (not rugby) that accidently shoot their mate?


    Quote Originally Posted by Sidney View Post
    Find me a statistical breakdown of repeat offenders who have been given a chance compared to those convicted in the first place.
    Im no where near bored enough to go sniffing down that trail.
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    Just a slopy retrobate

 

 

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