Thread: Hunter convicted

king hit is a interesting one...I believe one of the pollies is trying to push through a bill about it now??? there was a case in Timaru a few years back where single punch dropped fella to pavement and he hit head on gutter....... now IF a single or indeed multiple punch incident sees Joe public faced with manslaugther/attempted MS or indeed even assult..... lets level the playing field as we have chrystal clear evidence that is undeniable nearly everytime a game of rugby (union or legue) is played..... the "intent" is the same...you are pissed off with someone and take a swing....


as to origonal topic.....yes a major cockup was made and luckily THIS TIME someone didnt die......hopefully it helps educate a few others one way or the other.

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Originally Posted by Micky Duck

king hit is a interesting one...I believe one of the pollies is trying to push through a bill about it now??? there was a case in Timaru a few years back where single punch dropped fella to pavement and he hit head on gutter....... now IF a single or indeed multiple punch incident sees Joe public faced with manslaugther/attempted MS or indeed even assult..... lets level the playing field as we have chrystal clear evidence that is undeniable nearly everytime a game of rugby (union or legue) is played..... the "intent" is the same...you are pissed off with someone and take a swing....


as to origonal topic.....yes a major cockup was made and luckily THIS TIME someone didnt die......hopefully it helps educate a few others one way or the other.

My son was invited to a meeting with him and his family, decided he was lucky and moved on without dwelling on it or getting further involved helping the prick feel good. The offender becomes the victim and needs the support of the one he bashed to overcome his problem. I would have cut his cock of and shoved it down his throat so he could breed, or at least removed a hand, but diversion seems to be enough in the eye of a very bad system!

Originally Posted by Maca49

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My son was invited to a meeting with him and his family, decided he was lucky and moved on without dwelling on it or getting further involved helping the prick feel good. The offender becomes the victim and needs the support of the one he bashed to overcome his problem. I would have cut his cock of and shoved it down his throat so he could breed, or at least removed a hand, but diversion seems to be enough in the eye of a very bad system!

Maca, I am sorry you were not on hand for your boy, you might relate to this.
My son had just escaped from Waiberia, picked him up from Chch airport still in uniform, we headed for the Macauly river to go Tahr hunting, some drunken fuckwits were already in residence at the hut, the boy went in to sort a brew while I unloaded the truck, I walked in the door to find an unpleasant confrontation, drunken mr tough 40 something, nose to nose with a 17yr old kid making tough man noises, he objected to the uniform - I read immediately what was about to happen and shifted fast, but not fast enough, the headbut connected and the boy got cleaned out. I was into mr tough guy and put him down hard. His two mates were smart enough to stay out when they got told to. Justice was immediate and telling.

I am Old Testament in my outlook regarding justice. I don't believe in touchy feely dogooderism or reform. Society has become what it has, on the back of lack of consequence.

Originally Posted by 257weatherby

Maca, I am sorry you were not on hand for your boy, you might relate to this.
My son had just escaped from Waiberia, picked him up from Chch airport still in uniform, we headed for the Macauly river to go Tahr hunting, some drunken fuckwits were already in residence at the hut, the boy went in to sort a brew while I unloaded the truck, I walked in the door to find an unpleasant confrontation, drunken mr tough 40 something, nose to nose with a 17yr old kid making tough man noises, he objected to the uniform - I read immediately what was about to happen and shifted fast, but not fast enough, the headbut connected and the boy got cleaned out. I was into mr tough guy and put him down hard. His two mates were smart enough to stay out when they got told to. Justice was immediate and telling.

I am Old Testament in my outlook regarding justice. I don't believe in touchy feely dogooderism or reform. Society has become what it has, on the back of lack of consequence.

I have to agree with that so much. We wrap everyone up in cottonwool so no one gets hurt at school or growing up. Everyone is a winner and no one loses. Problem is there are no boundaries for them, no understanding of consequences. There seems to be no perception that when something happens "shit just got real" type situations in particular, then the results where someone gets hurt or dies, and they don't accept responsibility because they did not know it could happen, when it is plainly obvious to all around them. I see so many examples these days of people learning the hard way when mistakes are made, that could have been avoided by not crossing boundaries of common sense. But because there were no boundaries growing up they dont foresee the result as a painful one until it hurts them.

Originally Posted by 257weatherby

Maca, I am sorry you were not on hand for your boy, you might relate to this.
My son had just escaped from Waiberia, picked him up from Chch airport still in uniform, we headed for the Macauly river to go Tahr hunting, some drunken fuckwits were already in residence at the hut, the boy went in to sort a brew while I unloaded the truck, I walked in the door to find an unpleasant confrontation, drunken mr tough 40 something, nose to nose with a 17yr old kid making tough man noises, he objected to the uniform - I read immediately what was about to happen and shifted fast, but not fast enough, the headbut connected and the boy got cleaned out. I was into mr tough guy and put him down hard. His two mates were smart enough to stay out when they got told to. Justice was immediate and telling.

I am Old Testament in my outlook regarding justice. I don't believe in touchy feely dogooderism or reform. Society has become what it has, on the back of lack of consequence.

And your lucky not to be in prison, must have been very satisfying. There’s a lot of arseholes about

Originally Posted by Maca49

And your lucky not to be in prison, must have been very satisfying. There’s a lot of arseholes about

Satisfying? Not how I would describe seeing a young boy get smashed, before I could get there to prevent it. Grateful to have been fast enough to prevent worse. The whole thing was quite sour.

The "justice" system in this country has become this weirdly flexible thing that changes according to who has the money or profile to bend it.

"Accidentally" ( prefer the word negligent ) shoot some one, and walk away without sanction that matches the scale of the crime, drive your car "accidentally" onto the footpath and kill a 4yr old child, and get to walk without sanction the matches the scale of crime committed, violent assaults carried out on people every day without genuine sanction.

Sorry Sydney, holding up being a soft and trendy hand wringing liberal apologist as an ideal, will only make sure the downward spiral of effective law and justice continues. Actual consequence without regard for position, money, profile, future prospects is the only way to halt the decline.