Thread: Hunter rescued by helicopter after accidentally stabbing himself

Originally Posted by Nickoli

As above mate - don't mean to come across evangelist or preachy... Personally I would be in a hurry to carry one: but then, it's just my opinion (one of millions on the internet....)

You might not mean to, but you're still preaching.

Millions of people on the Internet share your opinion?

That's great.












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Originally Posted by tiroatedson

It's makes u wonder how we survived pre PLB days.... Not saying they're not a good idea just don't own one myself.


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Double post - may as well emphasise my point: ...roll a dice, or an ankle?

We owe it to to our families and those who love us to sensibly mitigate risks and come out safe - even if we don't love ourselves its selfish not to think about the anguish we might cause others'. Many people have died in our hills and trees through just being plain dumb.

Originally Posted by Tahr

We owe it to to our families and those who love us to sensibly mitigate risks and come out safe - even if we don't love ourselves its selfish not to think about the anguish we might cause others'. Many people have died in our hills and trees through just being plain dumb.

+1

And it saves huge amounts of time from those that are sent out to find you. The old saying "It takes the search out of Search and Rescue." All that time isn't generally that much fun for you either.

WTF? I don't need to lighten up because I am not upset at all.

Just alluding to the irony.







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If your being looked for at night, 9/10 the pilots will have NVG.
They illuminate light 6000x so if you have a torch, cell phone (even if no coverage use the screen to wave at the heli) or even a ciggy lighter stands out for miles! Use any light source you have to try help the machine spot you.
Once they have you and are trying to land turn the lights off.
It was incredible to see how these and use NVG.
The number of people I have seen spotlighting in the early hrs when on a medivac from a
Long long way away is amazing.
Becons certainly make it easier to find people.

R93 I don't really see how you could say Nickoli was preaching when all he has done was share his opinion he didnt come knock on your door with a pamphlet asking you to accept a PLB as your savior. I would have thought that you of all people would realise that no matter how confident or comfortable you may feel you are at any any given task, accidents can and do happen and rubishing someone's opinion to justify your own isn't really constructive.
Personally I find it absolute madness that kiwi blokes will spend thousands on rifles and other gear but won't buy a PLB simply because "they are expensive" ($300??? You could spend more than that taking your lady for a night out) and justify their decision not to carry one because they "spend more time in the hills than most" and thus far nothing has gone wrong for them.
You could possibly have a total disregard for your own safety and possibly even others around you but at least for the sake of your family and others who care about you a PLB is CHEAP insurance.

Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst

R93 I don't really see how you could say Nickoli was preaching when all he has done was share his opinion he didnt come knock on your door with a pamphlet asking you to accept a PLB as your savior. I would have thought that you of all people would realise that no matter how confident or comfortable you may feel you are at any any given task, accidents can and do happen and rubishing someone's opinion to justify your own isn't really constructive.
Personally I find it absolute madness that kiwi blokes will spend thousands on rifles and other gear but won't buy a PLB simply because "they are expensive" ($300??? You could spend more than that taking your lady for a night out) and justify their decision not to carry one because they "spend more time in the hills than most" and thus far nothing has gone wrong for them.
You could possibly have a total disregard for your own safety and possibly even others around you but at least for the sake of your family and others who care about you a PLB is CHEAP insurance.

Oh FFS! I never rubbished his opinion at all. He rubbished mine.

Just pointing out the irony of how strongly he feels about the subject and can vale an insult to me and another poster who doesn't use one.

Sort of like anything else people have a strong belief in, and imply others should follow or bad things will happen.
Remind you of anything?

I have been involved with a few SAR where they didn't work for various reasons. They are simply not infallible enough to make me think they are essential.

FFS some posters are arguing on another thread on where and how they should be carried.

I also said I don't have one now. Might get one one day but I am not in a hurry.

You yourself are saying or implying I have no regard for my own safety or the people around me? Where the fuck does that come from? Because I don't have a PLB?
Get over yourself. You don't know me and certainly haven't walked in my boots.

There are other protocals to ensure you are found should the need arise and maybe that is suffice for me and my family for now.


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Originally Posted by R93

Oh FFS! I never rubbished his opinion at all. He rubbished mine.

Just pointing out the irony of how strongly he feels about the subject and can vale an insult to me and another poster who doesn't use one.

Sort of like anything else people have a strong belief in, and imply others should follow or bad things will happen.
Remind you of anything?

I have been involved with a few SAR where they didn't work for various reasons. They are simply not infallible enough to make me think they are essential.

FFS some posters are arguing on another thread on where and how they should be carried.

I also said I don't have one now. Might get one one day but I am not in a hurry.

You yourself are saying or implying I have no regard for my own safety or the people around me? Where the fuck does that come from? Because I don't have a PLB?
Get over yourself. You don't know me and certainly haven't walked in my boots.

There are other protocals to ensure you are found should the need arise and maybe that is suffice for me and my family for now.


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Lighten up bro - it's the internet. There are going to be disagreements, there are going to be insults, there may even be misinterpretations.
Getting yourself wound up doesn't do anyone any favours... In My Humble Opinion.

Originally Posted by Nickoli

Lighten up bro - it's the internet. There are going to be disagreements, there are going to be insults, there may even be misinterpretations.
Getting yourself wound up doesn't do anyone any favours... In My Humble Opinion.

Omg?

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Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst

R93
Personally I find it absolute madness that kiwi blokes will spend thousands on rifles and other gear but won't buy a PLB simply because "they are expensive" ($300??? You could spend more than that taking your lady for a night out) and justify their decision not to carry one because they "spend more time in the hills than most" and thus far nothing has gone wrong for them.
You could possibly have a total disregard for your own safety and possibly even others around you but at least for the sake of your family and others who care about you a PLB is CHEAP insurance.

LOL If you can afford $300 a night to take your woman out then I am not surprised your springing for a PLB. I bet you hunt with a gold plated AK47 too...

But just because you blokes like having them, does not make them essential. in recent years the common use of them has changed the nature of an emmergency, giving rise to a spate of callouts that I will describe as frivolous. Someone I know who had a sore ankle, the pair that called a chopper in because they were cold and didnt have a lighter for a fire, the lady that got choppered out because there were too many sandflies, the hippy that didn't wear any shoes and his feet were sore.

If you need a PLB to be comfortable in the bush then you should probably take up another past time. Mountain climbing, sure. Take a PLB. Wear a helmet. But its more dangerous driving to the National Park. This insistance on carrying a PLB as if it should be mandatory smacks of self aggrandizement of some kind, a bit macho, look out deep wild I go...you walked there. Through some trees. The most dangerous thing threatening you is the drive home.
Yes people die in the bush every year. Most of them are foreign tourists who wear denim jeans and die of exposure. A couple of old bastards hunting will have coronaries, because there old bastards. If you\re truly unlucky you'll get hit by a rock after you've shot a tahr and fall off a cliff, but as I said, if you're mountain climbing. Sure. Otherwise I dont see the urgency in getting one.
I had to call S&R out for a friend once, but I still dont think PLBs are essential. And I think some people are making a lot of money off them. That is, after all, the purpose of insurance.

Originally Posted by Carlsen Highway

LOL If you can afford $300 a night to take your woman out then I am not surprised your springing for a PLB.

But just because you blokes like having them, does not make them essential. in recent years the common use of them has changed the nature of an emmergency, giving rise to a spate of callouts that I will describe as frivolous. Someone I know who had a sore ankle, the pair that called a chopper in because they were cold and didnt have a lighter for a fire, the lady that got choppered out because there were too many sandflies, the hippy that didn't wear any shoes and his feet were sore.

If you need a PLB to be comfortable in the bush then you should probably take up another past time. Mountain climbing, sure. Take a PLB. Wear a helmet. But its more dangerous driving to the National Park. This insistance on carrying a PLB as if it should be mandatory smacks of self aggrandizement of some kind, a bit macho, look out deep wild I go...you walked there. Through some trees. The most dangerous thing threatening you is the drive home.
Yes people die in the bush every year. Most of them are foreign tourists who wear denim jeans and die of exposure. A couple of old bastards hunting will have coronaries, because there old bastards. If you\re truly unlucky you'll get hit by a rock after you've shot a tahr and fall off a cliff, but as I said, if you're mountain climbing...

Personally, as an old bastard I'm hoping for a "hard attack". And if that happens while I'm in the hills I will be hitting that PLB button. They can either fly my wife into me, or me out to my wife. I won't be bothered either way. It will still be a rare treat.

Originally Posted by Tahr

Personally, as an old bastard I'm hoping for a "hard attack". And if that happens while I'm in the hills I will be hitting that PLB button. They can either fly my wife into me, or me out to my wife. I won't be bothered either way. It will still be a rare treat.

I pity anything near you that might be warm if it doesn't work out

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Originally Posted by R93

I pity anything near you that might be warm if it doesn't work out

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You guys should get together for a hunt....

When younger we didnt have PLBs.
But we were fit and were comfortable in the bush.
Biggest worry was getting shot by some other hunter.
Now I am older have one for piece of mind as the body starts to age(or to be honest has aged).
If I was in the my twenties to late thirties again I would be argue I could do without one.
But have used a compass and map known where I am and where I am going for the last 40 years.
It is technology that is handy but not essential.