Thread: Hunting fatality in BOP

Originally Posted by BRADS

Our local does that gibo, every December the senior room goes on a deer hunt in the Ruahines we haven't failed yet.
Not always easy with kids in tow, they have to carry the whole deer out, then we give them a butchery lesson.

We go to a mohaka camp mid year where the kids shoot clays with 20 guage and 410 and targets with 22s last year every kid had a go.

I dont no of any other schools doing that!
I'll pm ya some pics



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Outstanding!!

Originally Posted by bigbear

I went on a town school camp last year, over the week they had two groups of 35 kids plus female teacher aids and parents.
3 of us run the slug guns and everybody had a go including adults.
This students leading up to this had been taught the seven basic rules and very well behaved

Yup - similar here. Recent camp over a weekend. Some of us adults were deputized to supervise the air rifles. Good set up. Both kids and adults loved it. Safe as houses.

Originally Posted by timattalon

then wait for the uproar when it is pointed out that poaching isn't criminal here....

Unless I've missed a change, under The Wild Animal Control Act 1977 and the Wildlife Act 1953 poaching is most definitely a criminal offence here, or have I misread what you meant?

Originally Posted by Zedrex

Unless I've missed a change, under The Wild Animal Control Act 1977 and the Wildlife Act 1953 poaching is most definitely a criminal offence here, or have I misread what you meant?

He must mean cooking eggs because hunting private land without permission is illegal and poaching ( Wild Animal Control Act )

Originally Posted by Barry the hunter

He must mean cooking eggs because hunting private land without permission is illegal and poaching ( Wild Animal Control Act )

When I was a nipper, I thought that was exactly what was meant by "poached eggs" akin to scrumping apples

Originally Posted by Zedrex

Unless I've missed a change, under The Wild Animal Control Act 1977 and the Wildlife Act 1953 poaching is most definitely a criminal offence here, or have I misread what you meant?

Taking a farmers stock is theft or rustling but not poaching. And illegally hunting wild game is illegal hunting and not poaching as they already belong to "the public" and that applies whether it is wild animals on public land or private.....

My understanding is that Poaching is not possible here in NZ from a legal standpoint not because it is allowed, but because of the ownership or lack thereof of the various animals taken.

What I was getting at was the headline should have read Illegal hunting.

Poaching definition.

[QUOTE].
illegally hunt or catch (game or fish) on land that is not one's own or in contravention of official protection/QUOTE]

Poaching is a fair term to describe any of the relevant illegal actions. Illegal possession, discharge or trespass with a firearm for the purpose of hunting. You need permission of the landowner whether it's private or public.

Not having a hunting permit on public land is poaching.

Not getting permission from a private landowner is poaching.

Originally Posted by timattalon

Taking a farmers stock is theft or rustling but not poaching. And illegally hunting wild game is illegal hunting and not poaching as they already belong to "the public" and that applies whether it is wild animals on public land or private.....

My understanding is that Poaching is not possible here in NZ from a legal standpoint not because it is allowed, but because of the ownership or lack thereof of the various animals taken.

What I was getting at was the headline should have read Illegal hunting.

yes I know what you mean a deer coming from Public land onto a cockys property is not legally his- as a feral animal it is property of the crown - it can be shot by anyone with permission of the cocky - and is then theirs - thats under the Wild Animal Control Act - but we are splitting hairs - to the Cocky Police and a Judge the term they will use is poaching since that is in common usage - the last thing the judge will say is leave your firearm and firearm license at the door on your way out ya poacher - to shoot an animal on DOC land without a permit is not poaching as such it is illegal hunting yes i.e no permit to carry a firearm and that is what the permit is for really

Public land its not a firearms permit. It's a hunting permit. You need one for any type of hunting. Rifle, bow, Pigs with dogs.