Thread: Im lost for words

Originally Posted by jim160

Pretty much, if you want it to change, then step up or shut up.

I like how you think that by just joining the police you can change how the whole organization works, that's like saying if you want the country to change, become and politician and you can do it....

AS IF

Originally Posted by Jexla

I like how you think that by just joining the police you can change how the whole organization works, that's like saying if you want the country to change, become and politician and you can do it....

AS IF

You can, how do you think the current leaders started their careers? The current Police Commisioner started as a Constable and went through recruit college. John Key entered parliament in 2002 I believe. It's a bit gutless to think that you can't change it so won't try. Admitting you don't have the personal ability or qualities is different.

I have a few questions, luckily the man isn't dead, and a number of things were done very wrong in the lead up to this.
how many officers would normally deploy to a call out,
is it normal for an armed officer, (with a carbine or long rifle) to be directly involved in detaining the suspect, I can understand a pistol.
I would have thought, once suspect was cuffed and on ground, that all arms would then be safed, right away, is this the case, or standard practice is.

Could be between four and 20 at a guess.
Yes, every AOS member carries a long except a dog handler, and they've got a dog to control.
All the firearms are on safe until a second or two max before firing.

I believe part of the problem was they had crap slings, this has been remedied as a direct result of this incident.

Tussock I see that you've met a few idiot cops, sadly there are still a few about but they are certainly a very small minority. But you also cut the quote short, you have very little experience in Policing, their training and dealing with criminal element in NZ. If you're ever in Northland give me a shout and I'll take you out for a ride along and introduce you to all of the cops around, you'd probably change your general opinion, I imagine you'd be pretty interesting to have a beer with too.

As for following you on this thread winding all over the place, I'm over it, and my wife is sick of me sitting on the computer.

Originally Posted by Savage1

I believe part of the problem was they had crap slings, this has been remedied as a direct result of this incident.

I really hope that is the case!

Originally Posted by Jexla

I like how you think that by just joining the police you can change how the whole organization works, that's like saying if you want the country to change, become and politician and you can do it....

AS IF

Im guessing by that statement, you believe that nothing can be changed so why bother trying.
Forgive me but that is the most gutless thing I have ever heard. You cant change anything unless you put in the hard yard to make stuff change.

Saying I cant change it so I wont try, is just the cowards way out.

Im guessing by your tone of your comments that you are a worker that just what they are told and does nothing other than what you are told. Much like a robot.

Im guessing you have not found or even looked of an easier way to do stuff, or recommend a better way of doing things.

Also, how then are Politicians or leaders made if one doesn't become one. Do you think they are born into it as a birth right.

Originally Posted by jim160

Im guessing by that statement, you believe that nothing can be changed so why bother trying.
Forgive me but that is the most gutless thing I have ever heard. You cant change anything unless you put in the hard yard to make stuff change.

Saying I cant change it so I wont try, is just the cowards way out.

Im guessing by your tone of your comments that you are a worker that just what they are told and does nothing other than what you are told. Much like a robot.

Im guessing you have not found or even looked of an easier way to do stuff, or recommend a better way of doing things.

Also, how then are Politicians or leaders made if one doesn't become one. Do you think they are born into it as a birth right.

You sure took this thread to a whole new level of insults didn't you?
I'll let you assume all you like, you really have NO idea.
I'll also leave that conversation at that and let your true personality shine for all to see.

Originally Posted by Jexla

I like how you think that by just joining the police you can change how the whole organization works, that's like saying if you want the country to change, become and politician and you can do it....

AS IF

Well said and 100% correct. Maybe some of the prize dicks on here will wake up and realise this one day but im not betting thats going to happen any time soon.