Interesting clip on TV news tonight...

Police are apparently finding a heap more people involved in 3D printing firearms parts and recovering a lot more 3D printed 'guns' (if that's what you can call them) while executing search warrants.

First thought is geez, you'd have to be bloody keen or not interested in retaining your hands to actually fire one and second - well that makes the control measures they are trying to implement more of a moot point. If you're printing the things at will it's a bit of a farce really isn't it?

I feel like a poll is in order - would you be willing to shoot a 3D plastic printed firearm? My answer - hell no!

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Originally Posted by No.3

Police are apparently finding a heap more people involved in 3D printing firearms parts and recovering a lot more 3D printed 'guns' (if that's what you can call them) while executing search warrants.

First thought is geez, you'd have to be bloody keen or not interested in retaining your hands to actually fire one and second - well that makes the control measures they are trying to implement more of a moot point. If you're printing the things at will it's a bit of a farce really isn't it?

I feel like a poll is in order - would you be willing to shoot a 3D plastic printed firearm? My answer - hell no!

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Maybe a 22 one.

More about intimidation
Could you tell the difference from say 20 feet away if it's real or a 3D printed one ?

Someone in the states printed hundreds of guns then handed them in at an amnesty and got paid over $20k for them.

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Originally Posted by Harryg

More about intimidation
Could you tell the difference from say 20 feet away if it's real or a 3D printed one ?

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May as well buy a soft air pistol, instead of print one?
One of the points I made in my submission, was, anyone one with a lathe, milling machine, a bit of knowledge can manufacture a firearm, so tell me again about registration:)

They basically only 3D print the 'handles'. The working parts still have to be steel to last more than a couple of shots, even in .22. I saw someone on the news suggesting that plans etc. should be banned. Hell, there are plenty of people on here that would have to have their heads removed because of the info stored in them!

Scaremongering by the media sums it up.

There are some pretty viable ones out there, you might get yourself on a list but search for fgc9 on YouTube, at least one of these has been found in nz

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Originally Posted by No.3

Police are apparently finding a heap more people involved in 3D printing firearms parts and recovering a lot more 3D printed 'guns' (if that's what you can call them) while executing search warrants.

First thought is geez, you'd have to be bloody keen or not interested in retaining your hands to actually fire one and second - well that makes the control measures they are trying to implement more of a moot point. If you're printing the things at will it's a bit of a farce really isn't it?

I feel like a poll is in order - would you be willing to shoot a 3D plastic printed firearm? My answer - hell no!

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It's almost like all those submissions on the arms act change that said this were on to something.

It's almost like dealing with tweedle dee and wonder dummy.

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Originally Posted by Finnwolf

Scaremongering by the media sums it up.

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You can 3d print steel.

Anyone with a few skills, materials and a milling machine and a lathe can make a weapon. The barrel is the tricky part.

We will see a lot more of this sort of thing as time goes on. I would say it's only a matter of time before some enterprising person starts making homemade pistols for naughty people.

Most times they only fire a single shot and are done. But that can be enough.

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Originally Posted by tac a1

Anyone with a few skills, materials and a milling machine and a lathe can make a weapon. The barrel is the tricky part.

We will see a lot more of this sort of thing as time goes on. I would say it's only a matter of time before some enterprising person starts making homemade pistols for naughty people.

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Dont even need a milling machine or a lathe, they can be made in a home workshop with basic tools such as a vice and a drill press. Barrels can be made by some way of using electricity and chemistry, dont ask me how cos its way beyond my pay grade. I met a guy a year or so back that had made a rifle barrel using this method and was happy with the result.

Here is a link to an older story with a picture of said 3d printed gun https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/gang-m...FDYPVFLNELYIA/

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Originally Posted by Chilli_Dog

Here is a link to an older story with a picture of said 3d printed gun https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/gang-m...FDYPVFLNELYIA/

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Shit, the barrel would have dropped really fast, semi auto my arse:D

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Originally Posted by tac a1

Anyone with a few skills, materials and a milling machine and a lathe can make a weapon. The barrel is the tricky part.

We will see a lot more of this sort of thing as time goes on. I would say it's only a matter of time before some enterprising person starts making homemade pistols for naughty people.

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that's already been done in Ch-Ch, converting blank firing replicas to fire live rounds....doubt they were safe, reliable or even accurate but it was being done and being sold to gangs

I’ve got a buck in my pocket that says it will largely involve gang members and so again I say to the Minister of Police and the Police Commissioner, you know who they are and you know where they are so just for one afternoon take all of the Police off sitting on the side of the road with their speed detectors and go and hassle the shit out of these pricks with patches on their backs.

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Originally Posted by gundoc

They basically only 3D print the 'handles'. The working parts still have to be steel to last more than a couple of shots, even in .22. I saw someone on the news suggesting that plans etc. should be banned. Hell, there are plenty of people on here that would have to have their heads removed because of the info stored in them!

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cremation for you then squire cause your grey matter firearms data store must verge on ultra secret eh what!!!!couldnt have that amongst the peasants can we ,would turn the politburo and academic cabals grey in the blink of an eye!!!!

I'm quite surprised we haven't seen the gangs using slam guns

a friend said he had a 3d printer that could make a gun..........................i've had a canon printer for years :P

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Originally Posted by vulcannz

I'm quite surprised we haven't seen the gangs using slam guns

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why would they when they have access to readily available supply of better options :ORLY:

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Originally Posted by Husky1600

Dont even need a milling machine or a lathe, they can be made in a home workshop with basic tools such as a vice and a drill press. Barrels can be made by some way of using electricity and chemistry, dont ask me how cos its way beyond my pay grade. I met a guy a year or so back that had made a rifle barrel using this method and was happy with the result.

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Barrels can be made and rifled entirely by hand tools. No lathe needed (although it makes things much easier) and a basic rifling machine can be made entirely from wood (as they used to be by old gunsmiths up until the late 1800's). There have been many very high-quality guns made over the years by top makers using very basic gear (forge, anvil, hammers, chisels and files).

Let's face it. I seriously doubt the majority of people who would want to make their own firearm for illegal purposes, wouldn't be worried about a high-quality firearm with a rifled barrel.
If they wanted to make something they could copy a Sten gun and make it out of pipe and round bar. it would be cheaper to buy a lathe and small drill mill and do that than buying a good quality 3d printer. At least they could be used for other things.

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Originally Posted by vulcannz

I'm quite surprised we haven't seen the gangs using slam guns

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they dont need to....they can import real ones with relative ease....if container loads of drugs get in...chances are more than high that guns do too....and they wont be single barrel break open types either..

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Originally Posted by gundoc

Barrels can be made and rifled entirely by hand tools. No lathe needed (although it makes things much easier) and a basic rifling machine can be made entirely from wood (as they used to be by old gunsmiths up until the late 1800's). There have been many very high-quality guns made over the years by top makers using very basic gear (forge, anvil, hammers, chisels and files).

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someone posted up a link some months back that showed a rifled muzzle loader being made from scratch..took two fellas best part of a week to do it...but do it they did and fired it afterwards.