Thread: Kaimai shooters on target

Originally Posted by small_caliber

You will probably find this kind of behaviour more common in the future with the police putting more restrictions and compliance costs on ranges.

These compliance costs will contribute to the closure of ranges due to nobody wanting to pay to use them and the organisations running them having insufficient fund to keep up the certifying and compliance costs.

From the police
o New Zealand Police is now a regulator using regulatory principals. The discussions in
this group will help make decisions on what the range standard is for each discipline,
and this will enable everyone to comply with these standards.
o That there are only about 50,000 firearms licence holders who are part of shooting
clubs, out of roughly 250,000 firearms licence holders. That means 80% of licence
holder are not parts of clubs. A lot of the work will be in the ad hoc ranges used by
these 80%.
o An issue is between sighting in once off versus regular occurrence, e.g. competition.
Focus of the Act are the ranges with regular occurrences. By focusing on these types
of ranges the standards will give authority to committees and bodies who have done
very good work in making safe ranges available to club members and the public.
o Acknowledging that ad hoc ranges will exist and that Police as the regulator will
most likely not know about many of them due to their ad hoc nature. This is an
opportunity to develop a number of FAQs for potential users of ranges/people who
want to set up ad hoc ranges, and to make it easy for these licence holders to set up
their ranges safely and shoot safely.


Would shooting at signs now mean these are ad hoc ranges?

@small_caliber. Where did you get that bullet pointed text?

Originally Posted by muzza

That sign has been there for a long time , complete with holes. Why has DoC not replaced it as part of their general maintanance program? Is it part of an ongoing campaign to make shooters look bad in public?

Sign has been there since 2010

One of the worst I have seen was the toilet at borland saddle someone had let a few rounds of 12g off from inside the toilet.....

Originally Posted by tetawa

Looks well "aged" from the days when everyone could own a semi.

W.T.F.? Could have been shot using any type of action.

Originally Posted by woods223

W.T.F.? Could have been shot using any type of action.

Yes, it could but the ones who took great pleasure in spraying rounds about seemed to use semis. Don't find the large quantiles of m/t brass and shot up beer cartons, cans and bottles at old skid sites and forestry road turn arounds like were there in good old legal semi days.

No real difference around these parts. Still seem to be arse-holes out there that see the need to shoot DOC and road signs. Same problem with cans and bottles, mainly seem to be Tui and Cody drinkers along with the odd Heinekin.

My uncle was the Taupo AA man 40+ years ago.
Some damage impressed him.
Sign to Lake Rotopounamu they shot the bolt heads.
He stepped it out to where he found the brass and reckoned they could shoot.
They flogged a sign of the bridge north of Waipapa Dam the big high one over the Mangawhio.
He harnessed up and stuck it out over the abyss.
They flogged it again.
He gave up.
In fact I think it still doesn't have a sign.
But it isn't new just some idiot's use firearms to damage stuff.
Some of the damage to huts isn't firearms related just shitheads.

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Originally Posted by 223nut

One of the worst I have seen was the toilet at borland saddle someone had let a few rounds of 12g off from inside the toilet.....

it was the deaf fella who did it.....if he wasnt deaf beforehand he sure as shit would be afterwards.....

Originally Posted by woods223

No real difference around these parts. Still seem to be arse-holes out there that see the need to shoot DOC and road signs. Same problem with cans and bottles, mainly seem to be Tui and Cody drinkers along with the odd Heinekin.

Glad "Waikato" was missing, @Rushy won't have to defend his favorite nectar drinkers. Cody"s seems to be a favorite of the mobile "hunter"

Originally Posted by DavidGunn

This sign was originally put up after someone drove off the end of the track over a 80 metre bluff but now seems to be used by all and sundry as something to blow their frustrations off at after finding there are "no deer in the Kaimai's"...for those that worry about hunters 'image' this is a prime example of what is not needed...DoC would have been better off to have put up a bulls-eye target with safe backdrop, at least the general public would understand...in a perfect world all those bullet holes would have been made by owners of a FAL.

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If anyone asks say it is where the Gangs do their training, probably be close to the truth.

Originally Posted by tetawa

Glad "Waikato" was missing, @Rushy won't have to defend his favorite nectar drinkers.

It is just as well. I wouldn’t want to have to put the hurt on anyone for bringing the ne tar of the gods into disrepute.