Thread: Mark your guns?

Why even bother with rfid chips, a slightly modified magnatron out of a microwave can wipe rfids easier than grinding a serial number off.

Still amuses me someone I know kept putting his wallet on top of the microwave, 3rd times a charm for a new chipped visa

Originally Posted by csmiffy

Our firm in Australia was considering this for hydraulic hoses on our U/G machinery as part of an industry guideline to manage them to prevent burst injuries.
The chips were very cheap-we didn't do it but think it was down to logistics and an industry downturn.
this would only really work if crims didn't know we were doing it or it was in such a place they couldn't se it remove it.
On a conspiracy theory note I also don't like it as then official govt departments could use it to sneak in firearms tracking/registration.
make it mandatory to have one on new firearms etc. I just don't trust them enough for that.

Originally Posted by csmiffy

The ones I was referring to were probably only a couple of bucks if that and would have to be scanned but if we start it some anti will come up with a clever idea and Make it a bit more involved and then look out. very much the start of the slippery slope.
I think it would have to be done as a personal thing so its all different all the time. crims wouldn't know how to sort it but could still be managed, and not big enough that agencies could start "helping" with it.

This' really the crux of it - for my purposes I've been playing with the idea purely as a personal solution that would not be publicized or discussed.... which in effect only works to prove an item is yours, not to find it as others would need to scan the guns to tell if there was a chip there in the first place. Kindof like microdots... good in principle, but you have to know to look. I agree, terrible idea in terms of public policy.

Originally Posted by striker

Why even bother with rfid chips, a slightly modified magnatron out of a microwave can wipe rfids easier than grinding a serial number off.

Still amuses me someone I know kept putting his wallet on top of the microwave, 3rd times a charm for a new chipped visa

It's true - the idea only works if you don't think or know to look for it... which makes it harder to recover them using the RFID because no one would look. Probably why no one bothers to do it




In the past I've thought of some other ideas such as chamber locks - an aluminium or alloy expanding chamber insert that expands when a key is turned. The insert would have recessed carbide teeth so if the insert was pulled or pushed out of the chamber without being unlocked it would bite into the chamber walls and resist being worked free to such a degree the chamber would be toast before it came out. The three big barriers are designing an insert that is fairly universal to fit most actions of a given caliber, make it easy to use, and make it well designed enough that it won't decide to stay locked one day and destroy your gun. A similar idea would be a bore lock that locks the length of the chamber with a coated high carbon steel bar down the bore (coated to avoid damaging the crown, bore or chamber). It could be length adjustable and work similarly to "The Club" steering wheel lock but in reverse. By nature any part of the locking mechanism would be protected by the barrel or receiver. You would have to cut the barrel in half to cut the locking bar, or try to drill it out, which could be dissuaded by using a hardened button in each end. Again, it would require severe damage to the gun before failing. Wouldn't bother a gang banger that wanted an Obrez style bolt action pistol or sawed off shotgun, but would be more of a pain than a basic trigger lock.

Originally Posted by canross

In the past I've thought of some other ideas such as chamber locks - an aluminium or alloy expanding chamber insert that expands when a key is turned. The insert would have recessed carbide teeth so if the insert was pulled or pushed out of the chamber without being unlocked it would bite into the chamber walls and resist being worked free to such a degree the chamber would be toast before it came out. The three big barriers are designing an insert that is fairly universal to fit most actions of a given caliber, make it easy to use, and make it well designed enough that it won't decide to stay locked one day and destroy your gun. A similar idea would be a bore lock that locks the length of the chamber with a coated high carbon steel bar down the bore (coated to avoid damaging the crown, bore or chamber). It could be length adjustable and work similarly to "The Club" steering wheel lock but in reverse. By nature any part of the locking mechanism would be protected by the barrel or receiver. You would have to cut the barrel in half to cut the locking bar, or try to drill it out, which could be dissuaded by using a hardened button in each end. Again, it would require severe damage to the gun before failing. Wouldn't bother a gang banger that wanted an Obrez style bolt action pistol or sawed off shotgun, but would be more of a pain than a basic trigger lock.

@canross

Yeah... that sounds quite easy. (-: