Thread: More Pistols and Semi Autos Stolen

Stolen firearms worry Rotorua police

Stolen firearms worry Rotorua police - National - NZ Herald News

Police are concerned over the theft of several firearms from a residential property in Rotorua.
The firearms include pistols and semi-automatic rifles.

When questioned by the Rotorua Daily Post on the location of the burglary and the number of firearms taken, a police media spokeswoman said they were not in a position to issue further details.

"However police are following lines of inquiry and are focused on ensuring that the firearms are recovered."
Rotorua area prevention manager, Inspector Stuart Nightingale said police are naturally concerned as to where these firearms may be, "and what they may be used for".

"If you know something about the theft of these firearms, or know who may have them, it is important that you contact police."
Anyone with information can ring the Rotorua Police Station on 07 3480099, or anonymous information can be provided to Crimestoppers on 0800 555 111.

Fuck sake people get better security. Not only is my safe hidden and secured away, my house is surrounded by security cameras, and there's a camera above the safe too (with files being instantly stored remotely).

I often wonder whether a commercial armoury might be the answer. Tons of people live in shit neighbourhoods; can't be bothered spending the coin on a decent setup cos they live in a renter; the missus doesn't like guns at home for whatever reason; away for work for long periods; have one or two guns they might use often, but have a pile they don't use for whatever reason.

Get a suitable building, secure the fuck out of it, wire it to the hilt, and charge people a fee to store their shit. Humidity control and that sort of thing might be easier with a whopping setup like that too. It may not make commercial sense however, as no-one has done it already. Hard to work out concentrations of FAL holders and numbers of guns, as we tend to keep it schtum from people we don't know. Plus the more suspicious may see it as the first place the police go if a sudden law change happens, or even to covertly record who has what.

Meh, just an idea

Originally Posted by Tommy

I often wonder whether a commercial armoury might be the answer. Tons of people live in shit neighbourhoods; can't be bothered spending the coin on a decent setup cos they live in a renter; the missus doesn't like guns at home for whatever reason; away for work for long periods; have one or two guns they might use often, but have a pile they don't use for whatever reason.

Get a suitable building, secure the fuck out of it, wire it to the hilt, and charge people a fee to store their shit. Humidity control and that sort of thing might be easier with a whopping setup like that too. It may not make commercial sense however, as no-one has done it already. Hard to work out concentrations of FAL holders and numbers of guns, as we tend to keep it schtum from people we don't know. Plus the more suspicious may see it as the first place the police go if a sudden law change happens, or even to covertly record who has what.

Meh, just an idea

And have a hard out adjoining indoor range. Draw up a business plan Tommy. You may be on to something.

Originally Posted by mcdeee

Fuck sake people get better security. Not only is my safe hidden and secured away, my house is surrounded by security cameras, and there's a camera above the safe too (with files being instantly stored remotely).

My understanding is that this person had security far in excess of what the law requires, so for fuck's sake, there is no need for self rightious people to jump to conclusions-do you think you cameras actually stop the theft? what makes you think there weren't cameras at this location BTW?

Alarms are also handy ...... But as @res has said cameras and alarms and firearms security won't stop the determined theft.

However the Alarms will bother the thief as the thief now knows the alarm is likely to be responded too and the cameras will assist the police with their enquiries.

Cheers
Pete

It would be interesting to see the statistics of the theft of B/C/E catagory firearms in recent years.It would seem that the current level of security is not enough though.

Originally Posted by norsk

It would seem that the current level of security is not enough though.

Based on what?

Originally Posted by Moutere

Based on what?

That the firearms are being stolen?

I think this was a very professional hit!

Originally Posted by norsk

That the firearms are being stolen?

Realistically any amount of security can eventually be circumvented with enough time, equipment and desire.
We are just more likely to read or hear about it these days when it does happen.

Originally Posted by norsk

It would be interesting to see the statistics of the theft of B/C/E catagory firearms in recent years.It would seem that the current level of security is not enough though.

I would welcome such statistics on all categories of firearms. What is also often (not always) not reported / known, is the exact level of security or circumstances for each case.

As has been stated, if criminals want something badly enough - they will get it. I can attest to this based on bitter personal experience despite employing security methods which would otherwise be regarded as illegal in this country.

The thing is people do the bare minimum to get a licence when they should be doing as much as possible to secure their prized firearms that's the way I looked at it

Originally Posted by northdude

The thing is people do the bare minimum to get a licence when they should be doing as much as possible to secure their prized firearms that's the way I looked at it

Agreed to a point.
If you're referring to an A category licence though. Security, historically has mainly been to secure against access by our kids and opportunistic thieves. As in no, or basic hand tools or planning.

That's the reason for the higher standards for B C D and E, as they are more likely to be targeted by a planned and equipped attack.

nobody thought of the old home invasion caper???
All the security in the world wont keep the petrol soaked owner from opening the safe and gift wrapping the pistols etc before handing them to the gorilla with the machete and lighter in his hand.

I just typed out an obvious scenario for finding addresses to rob pistols etc from, then realized that i might be feeding instructions to some devious mole out there. So i deleted it.

Anyway, loose lips sink ships.