Thread: MSC and firearms licensing

Hi everyone
Have heard MSC is going to the dogs so wondering if anyone can fill us in on whats going on and whats going to happen with licensing ect.

From what I understand the police are setting up private contractors around to country to do the job-from people with suitable experience

I don't think anything has changed as far as how you get your licence.

So its going to end up costing more i guess.
Have also heard that theres going to be changes to the licensing process, bringing in practical testing as well as the theory.

Sounds like you know more than us.

Was hoping somebody here was in the know instead of hearing whispers

Maybe there is nothing to know and they are just whispers? If there was a practical test where \ how would they administer it? Never going to happen, too complicated.

Maybe. I agree. Its a good plan in theory but with all the different types of guns and shooting in general it would be a very long and costly process to put every licensee applicant though and would make if difficult for the ones that don't have a venue near by. Only good thing is that it would put off the ones that just want a licence for the hell of it.

Originally Posted by MassiveAttack

Maybe there is nothing to know and they are just whispers? If there was a practical test where \ how would they administer it? Never going to happen, too complicated.

They seem to be able to do it quite easily in Canada.

It's business as usual as far as we've been told (Tokoroa). Until some official statement from police NHQ is forthcoming then it's pointless to speculate.

Pleased to see that the new firearms licence applicant test papers x & y are better worded than previously.

Originally Posted by muzza

Yep - business as usual here in Taranaki , although we ( MSC Instructors ) are reporting directly to our District Arms Officer rather than the MSC. Respect is easy lose and hard to rebuild ......

Yep/ did my msc safety course in DEC. no change from previous ' Just a longer wait from the plice. Same shit, different month.

Originally Posted by Koshogi

They seem to be able to do it quite easily in Canada.

... and South Africa.

Originally Posted by keneff

Yep/ did my msc safety course in DEC. no change from previous ' Just a longer wait from the plice. Same shit, different month.

did you have to go though the manukau police station fro that or do they still do it at papakura

@Ryan
@Koshogi

What are the associated costs in Canada and South Africa for a license these days, relative to the 10 year FAL we get for a $126.50?

In South Africa one first needs to undergo a training course through a government accredited training institution.

The training course provides instruction on the safe and efficient handling of the weapon in question and is followed IIRC by two test. These are a written test on knowledge of the Firearms Control Act of 2000 (e.g. legal responsibilities of firearm ownership, when you can / cannot shoot in self defence etc) and a practical test that encompasses weapon handling skills, basic marksmanship etc. The cost of this course will vary depending on the number of certificates being applied for or the type of firearm and the institution that's providing the training. Once the applicant's received their training certificate, they can apply for their competency certificate. If approved by the District Firearms Officer, they can then apply for their licence.

Costs:

* Training course ZAR 1500-2000 (~NZD 150-200).
* Competency certificate ZAR 70 (~NZD 7)
* Firearm licence ZAR 140 (~NZD 14)

TOTAL COST: ~NZD 171 - 221