Thread: Nazis successfully complete invasion 70 years later

Originally Posted by Carlsen Highway

The Nazi's were not Socialists, despite their name. You couldn't get more right wing than a Nazi.

There is a distinct difference between Socialism and Communism, which is what your equating these people with. They are not the same thing at all.

And also, I will say it again, whenever someone brings up the Nazis these days someone has to bring up Communism and point out they killed even more people, thereby implying that the Nazi's were not so bad. The Germans don't get a pass for Belsen and Auschwitz. This is what is worrying the belittling of Nazi crime, rather then an infatuation of the part of the PC brigade with Socialism as a cause. Don't make the mistake Americans do, where anything Socialist (meaning communist) is anti American. Scandinavia, Canada and New Zealand are very successful socialist nations.

Socialism is a responsible civilised community taking care of its members. Communism is a leveling of society that you need to kill ten per cent of your population to implement.


(Although admittedly, those above have stolen a 1930's Communist-style poster motif)

[Carlsen Highway]
The Nazi's were not Socialists, despite their name. You couldn't get more right wing than a Nazi.
[Ryan]
They are both socialist. Communism (economic socialism) is predicated on class, National Socialism is based on ethnicity or race.

[Carlsen Highway]
There is a distinct difference between Socialism and Communism, which is what your equating these people with. They are not the same thing at all.

[Ryan]
Both are totalitarian regimes. The only distinct difference is in the way that they divide and categorise and control and ultimately kill people.

[Carlsen Highway]
And also, I will say it again, whenever someone brings up the Nazis these days someone has to bring up Communism and point out they killed even more people. thereby implying that the Nazi's were not so bad. The Germans don't get a pass for Belsen and Auschwitz.

[Ryan]
Nobody in their right minds is giving the Nazi regime or what they did a pass. History needs to be taken into context. The Nazi regime only lasted 12 years. You would do well to read upon the initial and superficial effects of communism:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor
This act was committed well before WW II by Communists who weren’t even of their own people. Subsequent history is replete with the “successes” of communism where it has been successfully (to the detriment of said country), implemented.

[Carlsen Highway]
This is what is worrying the belittling of Nazi crime, rather then an infatuation of the part of the PC brigade with Socialism as a cause. Don't make the mistake Americans do, where anything Socialist (meaning communist) is anti American. Scandinavia, Canada and New Zealand are very successful socialist nations.
[Ryan]
Nobody here, or the reenactors are belittling what the Nazis did. If anything, they are reminding the public that such deeds should not be repeated. None of those countries are socialist nations.

[Carlsen Highway]
Socialism is a responsible civilised community taking care of its members.
[Ryan]
No – your above suggests a preordained arbiter of what dictates a “responsible” and “civilised” community.

I counter that the community takes care of its members based on self-reliance, intercommunication, respect for the values of the host country.

[Carlsen Highway]
Communism is a leveling of society that you need to kill ten per cent of your population to implement.
[Ryan]
That’s how socialism starts, consult Marx’s Theory of History.


(Although admittedly, those above have stolen a 1930's Communist-style poster motif)[/QUOTE]

[Carlsen Highway]
The Nazi's were not Socialists, despite their name. You couldn't get more right wing than a Nazi.
[Ryan]
They are both socialist. Communism (economic socialism) is predicated on class, National Socialism is based on ethnicity or race.

[Carlsen Highway]
There is a distinct difference between Socialism and Communism, which is what your equating these people with. They are not the same thing at all.

[Ryan]
Both are totalitarian regimes. The only distinct difference is in the way that they divide and categorise and control and ultimately kill people.

[Carlsen Highway]
And also, I will say it again, whenever someone brings up the Nazis these days someone has to bring up Communism and point out they killed even more people. thereby implying that the Nazi's were not so bad. The Germans don't get a pass for Belsen and Auschwitz.

[Ryan]
Nobody in their right minds is giving the Nazi regime or what they did a pass. History needs to be taken into context. The Nazi regime only lasted 12 years. You would do well to read upon the initial and superficial effects of communism:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor
This act was committed well before WW II by Communists who weren’t even of their own people. Subsequent history is replete with the “successes” of communism where it has been successfully (to the detriment of said country), implemented.

[Carlsen Highway]
This is what is worrying the belittling of Nazi crime, rather then an infatuation of the part of the PC brigade with Socialism as a cause. Don't make the mistake Americans do, where anything Socialist (meaning communist) is anti American. Scandinavia, Canada and New Zealand are very successful socialist nations.
[Ryan]
Nobody here, or the reenactors are belittling what the Nazis did. If anything, they are reminding the public that such deeds should not be repeated.

[Carlsen Highway]
Socialism is a responsible civilised community taking care of its members.
[Ryan]
No – your above suggests a preordained arbiter of what dictates a “responsible” and “civilised” community.

I counter that the community takes care of its members based on self-reliance, intercommunication, respect for the values of the host country.

[Carlsen Highway]
Communism is a leveling of society that you need to kill ten per cent of your population to implement.
[Ryan]
That’s how socialism starts, consult Marx’s Theory of History.


(Although admittedly, those above have stolen a 1930's Communist-style poster motif)[/QUOTE]

[Carlsen Highway]
The Nazi's were not Socialists, despite their name. You couldn't get more right wing than a Nazi.
[Ryan]
They are both socialist. Communism (economic socialism) is predicated on class, National Socialism is based on ethnicity or race.

[Carlsen Highway]
There is a distinct difference between Socialism and Communism, which is what your equating these people with. They are not the same thing at all.

[Ryan]
Both are totalitarian regimes. The only distinct difference is in the way that they divide and categorise and control and ultimately kill people.

[Carlsen Highway]
And also, I will say it again, whenever someone brings up the Nazis these days someone has to bring up Communism and point out they killed even more people. thereby implying that the Nazi's were not so bad. The Germans don't get a pass for Belsen and Auschwitz.

[Ryan]
Nobody in their right minds is giving the Nazi regime or what they did a pass. History needs to be taken into context. The Nazi regime only lasted 12 years. You would do well to read upon the initial and superficial effects of communism:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor
This act was committed well before WW II by Communists who weren’t even of their own people. Subsequent history is replete with the “successes” of communism where it has been successfully (to the detriment of said country), implemented.

[Carlsen Highway]
This is what is worrying the belittling of Nazi crime, rather then an infatuation of the part of the PC brigade with Socialism as a cause. Don't make the mistake Americans do, where anything Socialist (meaning communist) is anti American. Scandinavia, Canada and New Zealand are very successful socialist nations.
[Ryan]
Nobody here, or the reenactors are belittling what the Nazis did. If anything, they are reminding the public that such deeds should not be repeated.

[Carlsen Highway]
Socialism is a responsible civilised community taking care of its members.
[Ryan]
No – your above suggests a preordained arbiter of what dictates a “responsible” and “civilised” community.

I counter that the community takes care of its members based on self-reliance, intercommunication, respect for the values of the host country.

[Carlsen Highway]
Communism is a leveling of society that you need to kill ten per cent of your population to implement.
[Ryan]
That’s how socialism starts, consult Marx’s Theory of History.


(Although admittedly, those above have stolen a 1930's Communist-style poster motif)[/QUOTE]