Thread: Nazis successfully complete invasion 70 years later

Seriously?

The Nazis were not socialists. They were FASCISTS. I put that in capitals just to make sure. Someone must have told you this before now. Everybody knows this right? Fascist. They are the textbook definition of fascists. Fascists are extreme right wing groups. Once again: Nazi's = fascists.
They put "socialist"" in their name to try and steal working class members from the Communist groups that were popular at the time. It was a ruse.

I am well aware of the history of Communism, I am a historian. I don't need to read Wikipedia, but thanks for the link. But we were talking about Nazi's. We don't need "but what about the Communists" in the discussion, since the only point to doing that is to belittle the Nazi crimes, whether you intended that or not. I already addressed this in my earlier post but you did it again above when you say the Nazi regime ""only lasted twelve years."" and that history needs ""to be taken in context."
This is offensive, as its on the edge of holocaust denial. This is exactly what I was talking about earlier, this reimagining of the Nazi's with comparisons of them being ""not so bad"" compared to Stalin...

Start a thread about Communism somewhere if you want to talk about it, but you should stop making comparisons that come out in favour of Nazi's - in a thread that's about people glorifying Nazis.[/QUOTE]
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New Zealand is the most libertarian country in the world, which makes it the most far right country in the world. NZ pioneered socialism, making them us most far left country. I would suggest this is because political terms like left and right are for politics, and thus are not required to make any sense. In a libertarian world, the economy is largely composed of collectives and cooperatives and whatnot, (NZs meat processors, irrigation companies, etc etc). As in communism. Likewise, in a libertarian country you can collectively decide to pool money and give it to poor people (ie, welfare). So extreme right and extreme left, in terms of economics come full circle. Most of the communist and libertarian youth have the same political position, they just don't understand it.

The real argument is central planning and command and control economies. These run head long into physics, where they fight an endless battle with entropy they will inevitably lose. Much of that entropy comes from the fact people are the weak link. In order to get the system to run right, people must behave in a predictable fashion. Thus, the ultimate battle of a centrally planned economy, left or right, is getting the people to behave as numbers in a panning model. The only way to do that is authoritarianism and totalitarianism. This is why Russia has 48 million hectares of prime temperate farmland out of production to this day. Nature won't play the game.

I think you will find a good percentage of the modern internet Nazis are Jews having a good laugh.

@Apollo

National Socialism and Internationalist socialism were both genocidal ideologies, notwithstanding modern revisions of the latter (which however appear to have gone unnoticed by Mao Zedong and Pol Pot.

Very interesting article on precisely this issue, for those interested.

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...m-1186455.html

FFS leave the politics out of this forum

FFS, have some of you forgotten the name of this web-site? New Zealand Hunting and Shooting

I take it neither of you read the interesting article then? (-:

When did the history of genocide stop being interesting???

Theres a few areas of this forum that need to be deleted as they are topics other than hunting and shooting wonder how many of the whingers have taken part in them

Originally Posted by northdude

Theres a few areas of this forum that need to be deleted as they are topics other than hunting and shooting wonder how many of the whingers have taken part in them

It's cool how we are all different backgrounds, and not stereotypical knuckle draggers, but able to have conversations on a wide range of topics. I'm amazed by some people's niche expertises, like @Flyblown with keeping dust out of a truck going through a dustbowl desert, etc etc.

The reservation of politics (noting this thread is about history, really, not politics) and religion is not because either is deemed inherently wrong --- but moderators just don't have time for heated arguments and forum members getting upset by one another and being put off interacting on the Forum. It is about maintaining civility.

Yea wierd mentality some have if i read a thread i personally dont like or not interested in i dont take part in it but others are free to get involved i like the variety of discussions here i wouldnt be here if there was only 1 topic it would be boring as fuk

History exists. Politics does not. Don't believe me? Find me single political position that actually exists somewhere. None of those mentioned above ever existed anywhere as more than a mongrel mix breed of a half dozen other positions. Like China, the capitalist communists. History is useful. Politics is not.

History is very useful helping to identify the foibles of politics and politicians. Lest we Forget.

Without history you we might all end up shouting nonsense at each other, instead of just most of us.

Most of the sheeple do not learn from history they keep voting for the same scumbag politicians that shafted them in the last 10 elections
The politicians know that the sheeple are stupid and will keep voting for the same BS they always have,
We are lucky our politicians are not extreme left or right they are just untrustworthy out for what they can pocket for themselves
they forget that they work for the electorate and toe the party line,

I still like the quote that nappies and politicians should be changed regularly and for the same reasons.......Correct me if I am wrong but I think it was Mark Twain....

Sheeple i like that one

Originally Posted by northdude

Sheeple i like that one

Includes gutless politicians who go and vote with the herd, never ask pertinent questions, etc.