Thread: New government will rewrite Arms Act

You cant trust Winny.

He marches to the beat of his own drum.

As opposed to trusting other politicians....................

now who is making up shit to suit /fit their argument????
excuses for NZFirsts past BS still doesnt excuse it....

and Norsk I gave party vote to ACT...that was always a given...but candidate vote to National...because that way it wasnt wasted vote..it may or may not have made any difference to the national candidate winning..but would have kicked myself if labour had won seat by 1 vote if I hadnt.
I have never voted for national before..and possibly wont again..but I sure as hell will never vote labour.

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

now who is making up shit to suit /fit their argument????
excuses for NZFirsts past BS still doesnt excuse it....

and Norsk I gave party vote to ACT...that was always a given...but candidate vote to National...because that way it wasnt wasted vote..it may or may not have made any difference to the national candidate winning..but would have kicked myself if labour had won seat by 1 vote if I hadnt.
I have never voted for national before..and possibly wont again..but I sure as hell will never vote labour.

Crikey did not know that Winny also uses 50gr TTSX.

Originally Posted by Tahr

Interesting.
I think there are estimated 300,000 gun owners in NZ (is that correct?). Act won 246,409 party votes.
If one in ten gun owners voted Act on the basis of gun laws alone (generous I think) that's 30,000 votes.
Without those votes ACT would have still got in with about 8 seats. Plus Seymour's seat gets them in anyway.

@Tahr
Plus van Velden winning the Tamaki seat.

Keep it relevant guys as it’s close to getting shitcanned

Originally Posted by A330driver

Quote: I used to think the US was crazy for no being willing to give an inch with regards to 2A but seeing how things played out here, in the UK and in Australia I know completely understand.

Touche!!!!… and the reasons are obvious for most here.When these politicians say ,”I guarantee “…. I say ,there are no guarantees until signed into law as such.

Early days and big promises from the 3 Stooges,ACTs participants in this Firearms debate will be severely tested by the others,they won’t get it all “their” way!!

Fixed it for you

Originally Posted by Bush Basher

Where did you pluck the one in ten voters from? You would have no idea how many voted for ACT on the basis of gun laws.

73.98% of statistics quoted on the internet are made up by the poster.

Including this one.....

Originally Posted by Spanners

Keep it relevant guys as it’s close to getting shitcanned

A bit of a tangent, but I couldn't resist,official cheese shaman is the most awesome title I have seen on a user for this site. Gold.

Originally Posted by No good names left

Fixed it for you

Aaaaaaaaahhhhh!……Not Really……the original Name I had was a little below the belt,so just tried to keep it ..Clean….but hey,appreciate the help!

Originally Posted by norsk

It's suits his point of view.

I would hazard a guess at 5/10 or higher, if you remove the rural and business owner motivated National voters. In which case it would be a tick for the nats and one for act.

I am surprised by the number of expats who voted Act too, 6 out of 8 Voted Act and the other two voted Green.I think people are just looking for new ideas and new faces as well as a bit sick of the rhetoric we have been fed.

My point of view is simply that I do not think that a lot (I said 10% of gun owners as an example) of Acts votes came from gun law specific single issue voters. Mostly people have far broader issues to worry about at the moment. I did not vote Act (I voted Nats) but Im very pleased that Act got in and have these proposed changes in the coalition agreement.

Originally Posted by Tahr

My point of view is simply that I do not think that a lot (I said 10% of gun owners as an example) of Acts votes came from gun law specific single issue voters. Mostly people have far broader issues to worry about at the moment. I did not vote Act (I voted Nats) but Im very pleased that Act got in and have these proposed changes in the coalition agreement.

I think what has been missed is that ACT only gained one seat from 2020 so it is stretching it somewhat to say that the arms act issue was major in peoples thoughts. Other than Labour all of the other parties gained more than that. The National, ACT and NZ first coalition scraped in by a narrow majority so who knows what will happen in 2026.
GPM.

And the extra seat they won was in an electorate that I surmise would be anti gun. She won mainly because of her opponent's less than palatable view.

Keep this on track guys, general views on politics isn't what this thread is about. If it isn't firearms related save it for elsewhere

Originally Posted by Gibo

Keep this on track guys, general views on politics isn't what this thread is about. If it isn't firearms related save it for elsewhere

Good luck trying to get them to do that mate

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Originally Posted by BRADS

Good luck trying to get them to do that mate

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Then they will piss and moan when it gets the chop